美国的转变 - 特朗普与马斯克 2025年02月27日

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Tina Louise Spalding

我很高兴有机会讨论这个话题。这是一个全球性的话题,所以,嗯,延迟有多久,你知道吗?

嗯,现在正在连接到 Zoom——到 YouTube——YouTu——好的,是的。所以请稍等一下。嗯,会员们,我们马上就要连接到 Zoom,然后我们会——好的,我们现在直播了,Tina,我会把话筒交给你。

好的,谢谢大家今晚加入我和 Carol Morgan 的直播。对于那些不是 Channeling Jesus 社区会员的人,我是 Tina Louise Spalding,这是 Carol Morgan。她是我的业务经理,我会说是我最好的朋友。我们几乎每天都交谈,她是一位了不起的通灵者,她通灵的是一位名叫 Zena Allen 的存有。她大约在六年前开始通灵,我会让她告诉你 Zena Allen 是谁,因为我将通灵 Jesus 半个小时,然后 Carol 将通灵 Zena Allen 半个小时。所以请吧,Carol。

今晚的安排是我将通灵 Jesus 半个小时,然后 Carol 将通灵 Zena Allen 半个小时,之后我们将进行半小时的问答。所以,如果你在 YouTube 上提问,请在问题上注明是问 Jesus 还是 Zena,这样我们就可以轮流回答。

嗯,最近在美国关于 Elon 和 Trump 的事情引起了很多骚动,当然这也在全球范围内引起了波澜——影响到乌克兰、以色列、加拿大——我来自加拿大。所以我们想举办这个活动,以便从灵性的角度深入了解正在发生的事情。我理解每个人都有非常强烈的政治观点,但如果你在这里,部分原因是我们希望你能从更高的角度看待正在发生的事情,而不是陷入小我的愤怒、评判或恐惧中。所以我现在将请 Jesus 通过我来讲话,我们将看看他对 Trump 和 Elon 正在改变美国以及全球的影响有什么看法。

好的,非常感谢,Tina。太棒了。


Carol Morgan

非常感谢你的介绍,Tina,也感谢你的邀请。这是 Tina 的主意,所以我非常感激能参与这个前所未有的活动。正如 Tina 所说,我叫 Carol Morgan,我通灵的 Zena Allen 是蓝鸟意识(Blue Avian Consciousness)。他们是在 Tina 在台湾通灵 Jesus 时介绍给我的,从那以后,我与他们的关系不断发展。现在,我们的使命是帮助人类获得自由。所以我们今天所做的事情与他们的使命非常一致。再次感谢你们来到这里。非常非常感谢。


Jesus(由 Tina Louise Spalding 通灵)

你们确实是有福的存有。我是你们所知的 Jesus。你们来到这里是有原因的。你们被吸引到这个直播是有原因的。所以我们希望你们首先接受,你们在这里是为了你们的利益,你们的意识与这些信息相匹配。

我们希望你们在这个时候理解的是,我们在这个频道上已经传达了很长时间的信息,那就是你们的星球正在经历一场巨大的转变,这是扬升(Ascension)过程的一部分。当你们在小我思维中遇到变化时——对于那些不了解小我思维是什么的人,我们会简要告诉你们——它是你们头脑中相信分离的部分。它是你们头脑中相信死亡和恐惧的部分,它是你们的意识将你们带入这个身体-心智复合体(body-mind complex)的一部分。

合一意识(Unity Consciousness)、基督意识(Christ Consciousness)不需要一个身体,也不需要你们所经历的那种个体性。因此,仅仅作为人类在这个时候、在这个星球上、在这个扬升体验中,对你们来说是一个挑战,因为你们的一部分与灵性相连,一部分相信小我。因此,你们现在所目睹的,随着这些巨大的变化刚刚开始——你们都在 2020 年、2021 年和 2022 年经历了重大的变化——那是一波巨大的转变和启示。你们中的许多人在那几年中第一次看到了事物的真相。这是一次进化的第二次迭代。

现在,对于那些反对正在发生的事情的人,我们有些好消息要告诉你们。你们也将进化,即使你们不同意正在发生的事情。怎么会这样呢?正在发生的是一场旧系统的崩溃,正如你们所看到的,即使在最近的一两天里,全球领导人都因这些波澜而改变他们的行为。

这对大多数人来说是出于恐惧,因为旧系统已经不再运作,新的参与者——或者说新来的人——正在制造波澜,引起了一些骚动。所以,长期掌权的旧系统正在恐慌。他们恐慌是因为他们的能量来源正在转移和改变,他们不知道如何应对。所以他们正在争先恐后地试图操纵和控制在美国做出的决定的影响。

在美国做出的决定是参与这些决定的两个最有影响力的人的蓝图的一部分。你们知道他们是 Donald Trump 和 Elon Musk。这些存有在这个星球上有任务,就像所有存有在这个星球上都有任务一样。他们作为破坏性的影响者来到这里,寻求加强自由并驱散恐惧。

现在,那些不同意他们所做之事的人,你们正在感受到恐惧。我们希望你们在这个进化阶段理解的是,你们需要看到自己害怕什么,而你们无法看到自己害怕什么,直到你们被稍微刺激一下。例如,如果你们处于一段长期的婚姻中,其中一方依赖另一方的收入,通常会有一种纽带增强——我们会说较不富裕的一方——会坚持在一起,因为失去收入的想法是可怕的。

这正是许多——你们所说的左派——正在经历的事情。他们一直处于一种婚姻中,在这种婚姻中他们得到了经济上的支持。他们一直处于一种婚姻中,他们的弱点得到了政府的支持——不仅在美国,而且在全球政府系统中。我们要告诉你们的是:到目前为止,存在着一个全球政府。你们在 COVID 流行期间看到了它——一个全球政府。当所有国家都以同样的方式集体回应时,你们就知道有什么事情在酝酿中,那时你们第一次意识到你们所相信的国家边界并不是你们所怀疑的那样。

然而,随着这些破坏性的影响在美国内部获得——我们会说——权力,这两个存有不是全球治理系统的一部分。他们在他们的蓝图中被赋予了协助扬升过程的机会。现在,那些你们称之为左派的存有,或者那些与全球政府深度纠缠的存有,对正在发生的事情非常不满,因为他们无法控制这个过程。

所以,我们希望提供这些信息,以便那些感到恐惧的人理解,你们一直被包裹在政府支出的温暖毛毯中,现在毛毯正在被拉开。它已经围绕你们很长时间了——无论你们是政府雇员,还是在银行、学校系统、移民等既定系统中工作——这些系统中的存有现在感到脆弱。

我们希望你们理解的是,你们在其中成长的小我意识,被你们的社会加强和喂养,正在被给予一个机会来增强自己,而不是被娇惯。所以,我们会告诉你们一个例子,比如一个在父母家中生活的青少年。他们 20 岁、22 岁、24 岁了,还待在家里。他们和妈妈一起吃饭,财务由父母承担,到了某个时刻,你们都会理解,让这个存有离开家、展翅高飞、增强翅膀、在世界上找到自己的道路是很重要的。

这正是许多左派人士现在所处的情况。为什么?因为全球治理系统一直在支持弱点,支持相互依赖。当你们处于虚弱状态时——你们通过电视节目、电影、饮食、药物被置于虚弱状态——被照顾是很有吸引力和舒适的。

所以,你们现在看到的是,在这个新政府中,任命的存有不会娇惯你们。他们不会给你们一直拥有的一切,就像住在地下室的 25 岁青年一样。到了某个时刻,父母会下楼说:“我们不再为你支付 Wi-Fi 费用了。我们不再为你支付电话费了。你需要找份工作,你需要找其他地方住。”当这个年轻的存有被娇惯、被过度养育时,它会感到什么?

这正是全球许多存有正在经历的事情——这不是他们的错。他们通过社交媒体系统被教导这样做。你们在学校系统中被教导要屈服于权威,服从命令,只在被要求时才说话。你们都经历了这种灌输,你们被告知这是你们的受教育过程,对你们有好处。但你们都经历了这种灌输程序,因此,从你们人格的最深处,你们现在正在受到挑战。

对于那些对正在发生的事情感到兴奋的人,我们希望你们理解,你们与正在强加于世界的转变和变化是一致的。强加于世界——这听起来像是一件戏剧性的事情。确实,对于那些表面上因政治倾向而不同意的人来说,这是强加的。但我们要告诉你们的是:这个星球上的每个人都在祈祷。每个人都希望自由。

在 2021 年和 2022 年,许多人在自由受到严格限制时改变了主意,许多人在那两三年中醒悟到对自由的渴望。其他存有则与被照顾——我们会说被命令——的愿望一致。所以,你们在这个星球上所看到的是政治光谱的大规模分化——在支持政府的——呃,支持旧政府的——政治光谱部分——他们一直在祈祷。

他们一直在祈祷帮助,因为成本在上涨。他们一直在祈祷健康,因为他们被疾病困扰。他们一直在祈祷爱和连接,因为他们被孤立。我们希望你们理解的是,灵性倾听你们真正的心愿。灵性不会看你们在悲伤时微笑的脸,不会听你们说“我没事”而实际上并非如此的话。它倾听你们真正的心灵愿望。

在这段时间里,祈祷转变、帮助、爱、公平和平等的存有达到了一个临界数量。我们不是在谈论公平。我们不是在谈论目前在你们政府系统中引起混乱的这些话题。我们不是在谈论多样性、公平和包容。我们在这里谈论的是灵性进化。

现在,你们自然地想要自由。你们自然地想要创造。你们自然地想要爱。为什么这些是自然的事情?因为你们是按照造物主的形象被创造的,造物主是自由的、创造性的和爱的,你们也是以同样的方式被创造的。然而,你们经历了深度的灌输程序——通过你们的学校系统、电视和电影。

在 COVID 体验期间,你们注意到,观看某些频道的人会以某种方式行事,这是你们在审视自己内心世界时需要反思的证据。你们在看谁?他们在谈论什么?他们是如何谈论的?

我们希望你们理解,正在进行一场扬升过程,它不会停止。这是不可避免的,你们每个人都将经历它。现在,那些你们称之为《奇迹课程》学生的存有多年来一直在系统地消解他们的小我思维。许多在 YouTube 上观看这个视频的存有多年来一直在听我们谈论这种思维的清晰化,这是必要的,以便你们重获自由意志。

这是我们在这个时候想要强调的:对你们来说,拥有自由意志是如此重要。当你们寻求与限制、依赖、失去自由、控制相一致的信息时,你们的思维就被污染了。这不是你们的真实自我。这不是你们正在经历的真实本性。当你们感到恐惧、困惑、对未来担忧时——你们所拥有的那种负面感觉——正在让你们知道你们偏离了轨道。

那些为转变和变化鼓掌的存有——例如,为平等的改变——我们会提到这个关于互惠的想法,这个 Trump 先生正在要求你们所有人参与的。这个“以你希望别人对待你的方式对待你的邻居”的想法是黄金法则,事实上,这就是他正在遵循的。他正在审视某个国家对美国所做的事情,然后说:“好吧,对鹅好,对雁也一样,”他正在对那些国家进行回馈。他正在向那些国家反映他们实际上对美国所做的事情。

这对他们来说是一种新的体验。他们不知道正在发生什么。这是一个更进化的系统——而不是一个系统——呃,而不是一个国家为另一个国家的利益付费,现在正在变得平等。当然,如果你们回想一下我们之前谈到的婚姻场景中,那个在财务上不独立、一直处于依赖关系中的人,会对任何离开这种娇惯系统的想法感到恐惧。

但从灵性的角度来看,我们希望你们理解,你们来到这里是为了成长、扩展、学习、创造和成为真实的自己。当你们受到限制时,这不起作用。当你们力量不足时,这不起作用。当你们恐惧时,这不起作用。

所以,现在正在发生的是一个机会,让每个人都能感受到他们的恐惧、仇恨和评判。你们在 COVID 期间经历了第一次迭代。你们看到了人们真正相信什么,而那些真正相信他们所选择的任何一方的人——两三年、五六年后——开始看到他们所相信的事物的真正后果。

现在也会发生同样的事情。你们将看到人们相信什么。他们相信力量,还是相信软弱?他们相信勇气,还是相信懦弱?他们相信透明,还是相信欺骗?这就是现在正在发生的事情,这是为了每个人的利益。

因为在扬升过程中,每个人都必须看到他们相信什么,他们必须使用他们的自由意志来选择他们相信什么。当你们根据自己的指导、内在的感觉来选择你们相信什么时,你们将收获那个决定的果实。

现在,如果这听起来像是一个威胁,重要的是你们要审视这一点,因为任何与爱、创造和自由一致的人都不会觉得这是一个威胁。所以,这是一个线索。如果我们的话让你们觉得收获你们现在正在加强和支持的想法的果实像是一个威胁,那是一个小小的指导。那是一点恐惧在告诉你们,你们偏离了轨道。

所以,当你们观看新闻时——每个人都在看——我们对参与这个过程的存有的数量感到惊讶。我们希望你们走进去,倾听你们何时感到恐惧。无论何时你们因为世界对你们说话而感到恐惧——这就是当你们在电视或社交媒体上时正在发生的事情——世界正在向你们展示自己。你们不应该感到恐惧。

我们希望你们理解的是,你们是永恒的灵性存有。你们与神圣相连,神圣正在向你们发送自由、创造和爱的消息。当你们与自由、创造和爱一致时,你们不会感到恐惧。你们会感觉良好。你们会感到渴望的期待。你们会感到兴奋。这是神圣赋予你们的礼物——你们的指导系统。

然而,正如我们之前多次提到的,你们的指导系统可能被深度的灌输程序所覆盖,你们在社会中都面临着这一点。你们不知道自己被灌输得有多深。那些一直在做《奇迹课程》课程并释放他们思维的存有开始看到他们被灌输得有多深,以及他们的信念如何在他们的选择中误导了他们。

但我们希望你们——无论谁在 YouTube 上听这个——理解,你们的感觉是清晰的。你们总是知道自己感觉如何。你们总是知道是否想和那个人交谈,是否想去工作。你们总是知道,那是你们的指导系统。它是无懈可击且恒定的,你们可以信任它。它不会让你们害怕。

让你们害怕的是对你们小我思维的威胁和对你们灌输程序的威胁。灌输程序通常通过恐惧、恐吓从你们的家庭、教会、宗教、电视——所有这些东西——插入你们的思维。你们必须理解,灵性指导总是感觉良好。它总是感觉良好。

所以,如果你们在愤怒、受伤、恐惧中,理解这是小我思维的生存反应,你们正在接触到一些不强大的、恶毒的、暴力的和软弱的东西。你们的指导系统——那个说“去那边看看这个有趣的东西”,“去那边增强自己”,“去那边与另一个人进行爱的交流”——那是来自灵性的指导。

我们并不是说任何一方的人都能独占指导。你们都有。这是神圣在你们进入这个分离状态时赋予你们的礼物。它旨在帮助你们做决定。

所以,这就是我们在这个地球层面上想要指出的。你们正处于扬升过程中。这意味着:你们思维中存在的任何不爱的想法都将浮现。它将浮出水面,如果它被承认为真理,它将感到混乱,而事实上,它是一个谎言。

你们不需要恐惧。你们是受神圣指导的创造性存有。你们都有老师和指导者等待与你们交流,事实上,他们一直在与你们交流。如果我们不能在白天与你们交流,我们将在你们的梦境中与你们交流。所以我们建议所有在这个时候挣扎的存有,你们开始一个梦境日记,并请求在你们需要的时候被展示如何得到帮助。

如果你们感到恐惧,如果你们感到担忧,你们的小我已经被触发,这意味着你们已经进入了你们思考能力的最原始部分。对于那些感到喜悦、兴奋、认为这是一件好事的人,你们更与真理一致。我们不想冒犯任何人,但我们要告诉你们,这两个正在全球范围内引起波澜的存有确实是按照他们的蓝图、他们的任务来撼动世界的。

为什么?因为在这个星球上长期运作的系统不仅揭示了自己是独裁的,而且是腐败的。回想一下你们的 COVID 时光。那是一个独裁的时代,你们的自由被完全剥夺。只有那些已经学会了那个课程的人才能选择自由,有很多人选择了自由。

我们告诉那些存有,“他们是怎么知道该做什么的?他们是怎么知道该与什么一致的?”我们对你们说,“你们已经学会了那个课程。你们不需要再学那个课程。”所以,那些对未来感到恐惧或担忧、对你们在这个星球上看到的行动感到担忧的存有,我们会对你们说,“你们正在接受你们的课程。”这不是惩罚。这是扬升过程的一部分。这是你们灵性进化的一部分。

我们希望你们看到你们的恐惧。当它们浮现时,意味着你们知道它们在那里。让它们对你们说话。写下你们的恐惧是什么。写下你们认为会发生的坏事,并理解这是你们的潜意识在向你们揭示自己。它害怕。它孤独。它觉得它缺乏足够的内在坚韧来经受风暴——但那是一个谎言。那不是真的。但你们必须看到它。你们必须理解是什么在驱使你们。你们必须理解是什么在驱使那些恐惧的人。他们处于生存模式——存在的最低形式的意识。它是爬行动物脑(reptilian brain)。它是你们意识中为了生存而会杀人的部分。

所以我们请求你们所有人都超越这个战场,接受这个世界正在转变,这个世界正在改变,这两个正在如此夸张地展示他们力量的存有确实是在遵循灵性指导。你们的世界将经历巨大的转变。我们已经告诉你们很长时间了。我们一直告诉你们投资实物资产。我们一直告诉你们改善你们的家园,改善你们的健康——所有这些事情——因为当有风暴时,你们需要坚强。当有风暴时,你们需要知道你们的房子,你们的家,是安全的,你们的房子是建在坚固的岩石上,而不是在流沙上。

所以,对于那些感到不稳定的人,对于那些感到他们的家不安全、他们不安全的人,你们已经把它建在了流沙上,你们现在——现在——需要转向这些爱、原谅和喜悦的教导。你们需要理解,有两股信息流穿过你们的意识:一股来自充满恐惧、死亡和匮乏的灌输程序,另一股来自你们的指导者和老师的帮助信息。他们将帮助你们做决定。他们将增强你们。他们将帮助你们理解你们并不软弱。你们是神圣的灵性存有,你们在这里是有原因的——因为你们想要进化。你们想要有这个成长的机会,现在就是做这件事的时候。现在就是做这件事的时候。

我是你们所知的 Jesus。我在 2000 年前的教导与现在没有什么不同。那是一个压迫、控制和高税收的时代,人们感到无力,无法做任何事情来阻止统治他们的暴君。我当时教导的是同样的课程:你们是神圣的灵性存有。你们可能认为自己是一个普通的人类。你们被告知你们只有一票,那就是你们所能做的,那是一个谎言。你们拥有超越你们理解能力的强大力量。你们拥有超越你们理解能力的爱。你们被爱超越你们理解能力。

我们希望你们开始步入你们的力量,步入你们的权力。冥想。请求你们的指导者和老师帮助你们步入你们的力量。你们所有人都在这个灵性季节中被赋予了一个任务。你们中的许多人知道它是什么。你们有过这种感觉:“我应该成为一名教师”,“我应该成为一名艺术家”,“我应该成为一名歌手”,“我应该成为一名园丁”,“我应该成为一名日托提供者。”你们在做吗?现在是时候远离与雇主和政府的共依赖关系,投资于你们自己——在你们的教育、健康、投资上——不仅在自己身上,还在财务上。停止在你们不需要的东西上浪费钱。停止负债。开始像这些激进的变革者开始管理政府那样管理自己。

这是一个示范,供所有在财务上落后的人学习。让你们的家井然有序。让你们的健康井然有序。让你们的思维井然有序。你们想要参与扬升。你们不想要走错路。你们不想要那样。你们想要与你们的力量源泉相连。你们想要与你们的灵性指导相连,在那里你们将听到真理,在那里你们将被告知在这些变革时期对你们来说最好的道路。

所以,在结束时,我们希望你们理解,这些变革时期是为了你们的利益。它们是为了让你们看到它是如何完成的。它们是为了让你们看到有人说:“不,我们不再这样做。这不公平。”现在是时候让你们看到有人说:“这对你来说是一个非常好的 gravy train(容易的事业)。它即将结束。”对你们来说,看到这些事情是好事。你们是否在某个地方处于 gravy train 上?你们是否过于娇惯自己?你们是否通过糟糕的电视和糟糕的食物削弱了自己?

看看美国政府所有主要部门正在发生的转变——寻求健康、寻求正义、寻求自由、寻求财务责任。这些是良好实践的示范,你们可以从中学习——你们所有人,即使是那些支持这些变革政策的人。你们是否在合理地管理你们的家庭?你们是否在合理地管理你们的健康?你们是否在合理地管理你们的言辞和诚信?

所以,这就是我们希望你们做的。这是一个示范。看看它。不要陷入琐碎的争斗中,而是将这看作一个机会,看到自己被反映回来。你们是否坚强,被善引导,被正义引导,被公平引导,被爱引导?这是你们每个人要问的问题。你们被什么引导?

如果你们对你们所看到的事情感到兴奋,请利用这种兴奋来激发你们的生活。利用这种兴奋来激发你们的使命。利用这种兴奋来热切期待你们明天起床后的下一步——在你们听完这个激励演讲后——事实上,这是一个激励演讲。问问自己:“我今天能做什么来更接近我的使命?我今天能做什么来首先爱自己,然后爱他人?”

我们想提醒你们,爱自己是完全可以的。受苦和牺牲不是必须的,尽管很多人被告知它们是神圣的——它们不是神圣的。它们削弱你们,混淆你们。上帝希望你们快乐。灵性希望你们快乐,这就是为什么快乐感觉如此美好。所以,与快乐一致,与善一致,与诚信一致,并开始自己玩这个游戏。在未来的几年里,对你们来说,坚强、拥有诚信并与爱一致将是非常有益的。我们将很快再次与你们交谈。


Carol Morgan

在我开始通灵之前,这里有一个问题给你,好吗?在哪里——让我看看,这里有很多东西进来了。嗯,我要感谢 Ian 帮助我们传递问题,以便它们可以被阅读。有很多问题进来。

是的,我敢肯定。那么,没有他我们该怎么办?所以,这里的一个问题是 Don 提出的。她想知道——只是好奇——当你通灵 Jesus 但说“我们”时,“我们”是谁?


Tina Louise Spalding

嗯,我的理解是“我”是一个非常关注分离的陈述,那就是我们如何指代自己:“我想要这个”或“我想要那个。” Jesus 显然是一个集体的一部分,这就是为什么他经常说“我们”。他是集体的一部分。他不是孤立地工作。事实上,我认为他是 Ananda 的一部分——首先联系我的群体意识。关于 Jesus 的信息是通过 Ananda 立即传来的,他们是一个由 2500 个存有组成的群体意识。所以我相信 Jesus 是 Ananda 的一部分,因此“我们”是你在一个群体中自然会使用的词。所以,这就是他使用这个词的原因。

非常感谢,让我们看看 Zena 有什么要说的。


Zena Allen(由 Carol Morgan 通灵)

我的名字是 Zena。我的名字确实是 Zena Allen,这对我们来说是一种喜悦——一种愉悦——有机会与好奇的存有交流,与愿意娱乐“如果”和“为什么不”的问题的存有交流。今天与我们在一起的存有正在娱乐这样的问题,无论他们是否意识到这一点。他们正在试图弄清楚,“如果——如果这是某种方式怎么办?如果我开始以不同的方式看待世界怎么办?为什么不娱乐我不知道我所认为的一切的可能性?如果我不知道任何事物的用途怎么办?”

这对我们来说是一种愉悦,因为我们看到了一个开口。当一个存有提问时,我们看到了一个开口。我的名字是 Zena。我不是 Zena——对于那些以前没有接触过我们工作的人,我之所以有这个名字,是因为人类喜欢分类。他们喜欢贴标签,听到一个名字会让你的系统——你的神经系统——平静下来,这样你就可以把它放在你的一个类别中。但我不是 Zena。我是意识。我们是一群蓝鸟存有,我们通过这个存有与人类的使命是帮助简化灵性信息,以便你们可以获得自由。现在正是时候,亲爱的存有们,这就是为什么我们对这个机会感到如此兴奋。

我们今天给你们的信息是希望的信息。如果你们在这个时候没有感到希望的期待和兴奋——顺便说一句,这是我们传递的能量,我们希望在这一神圣而神圣的日子里触动你们的心——那么你们内心一定有什么东西需要被审视。我们将展开说明。

我们理解在你们的层面上有很多不安定的情绪。我们理解有许多存有正在受苦,正在度过非常艰难的时期。我们不是在谈论那些在家里看新闻,对正在发生的事情感到不好的存有。我们是在谈论那些被压迫的存有,那些被审查的存有,那些在这个时候被轰炸的存有,那些被攻击的存有,那些处于战争中的存有。那些存有在这个时候有过并且正在经历非常具体的体验,而那些存有并不是我们在这个时候所谈论的。

我们谈论的是那些在家里听我们信息的存有,那些表面上没有积极参与正在发生的事情的存有。为什么我们使用“表面上”这个词?因为你们所有人——我们所有人——都在用我们的每一个想法创造这个现实,重要的是你们要记住,即使你们在舒适的家中,你们所拥有的每一个想法都被上传到我们喜欢称之为母舰、或主计算机、或主机的东西上。那就是你们来这里的目的。你们来这里是为了体验,你们的体验被上传。但亲爱的存有们,你们的想法也是如此。

所以,对于那些正在受苦但实际上并没有处于这种非常艰难的情况中的存有,我们对你们说:这是一个审视内心并问自己“你们为什么受苦?”的时候。

奇怪——我听到了一些声音。声音没问题吗?Dely 叫了一声。抱歉。哦,好的,好的,我会——我正在静音。好的,没问题。

我的名字是 Zena,我们回来了。所以我们请求你们——问问自己,“你们内心正在发生什么?”因为,亲爱的爱们,这确实是一个兴奋的时刻。我们将解释。

你们在世界上看到的改变——因为虽然这两个存有的话题是美国和你们称之为 Trump 和 Elon 的存有,虽然那是话题——但真正正在发生的是在全球范围内发生的事情。那么,为什么——为什么会发生这种情况?这种变化正在发生是因为你们准备好了,因为存有们一直在请求改变。他们一直在祈祷改变,这就是那些祈祷的效果。

已经建立的系统是那些不惠及大多数人的系统。它们惠及一小撮精英——那些积累大量金融财富的存有越来越少,而大众却在不断失去、失去、失去。所以,正在运作的系统对所有人都不利,你们在这个时候看到的是你们所有人请求改变的效果。但有趣的是,你们请求改变,却不想经历改变的不适。

亲爱的爱们,改变会让你们不舒服,因为即使你们有一个对你们不利的局面,你们也习惯了它。当改变来临时,它会让你们不安。所以我们对你们的信息是,记住你们请求了改变,记住宇宙是一个反馈回路,总是把你们放出的东西带回给你们。

这很重要,因为,亲爱的爱们,现在是时候与爱一致了。现在是时候使用你们上帝赋予的自由意志的礼物,选择爱而不是恐惧,并为你们所相信的站起来,保持一致,亲爱的爱们。你们在栅栏的哪一边并不重要。你们是民主党人还是共和党人,保守派还是自由派,都不重要。重要的是,亲爱的爱们,你们与爱一致。

我们今天对你们的呼吁——为了主权和自由——是记住,存有们可以不同意,但你们可以共存。这一点正在被遗忘,即使在你们祈祷被回应的情况下。所以你们不希望小我压倒你们所请求的美丽的变化。你们不希望小我现在接管。

这并不是说小我思维没有它应有的位置。我们一次又一次地说:小我有它应有的位置,那就是在需要时保护你们的物理结构——当你们穿过繁忙的街道时,当你们在激流漂流中处于危险时,无论情况如何。它在那里保护你们的结构——一个允许特定体验的结构。但除此之外,亲爱的爱们,小我应该被放在后座。

而现在,即使是那些一直在祈祷改变并看到改变的存有们,也正在忘记这一点,并允许小我接管,他们正在允许分离继续。所以我们对你们说,亲爱的爱们,停下来。深呼吸,问自己,“我代表什么?什么对我重要?我是否保持一致,我是否在选择爱?”

如果你们停下来问自己这些问题,你们将更好地了解自己和你们的动机——是什么让你们行动,你们为什么做你们所做的事情,你们想什么以及为什么。通过了解自己,亲爱的爱们,你们将了解你们的其他人——那些似乎与你们分离的存有——正在有不同的、有效的体验。我们希望你们在下次进行激烈的政治讨论时记住这一点。不同意是可以的,但重要的是尊重彼此,这是可能的。

所以再次,我们说,无论你们在问题的哪一边,记住以尊重的方式同意不同意,记住边界是不健康的。当我们说这一点时,我们变得有争议,因为在灵性圈子中,边界被认为是重要的。我们在这里明确:边界是分离。边界是不健康的。

现在,我们的意思是,重要的是要理解如何与他人互动,以及是否与他们互动。我们称之为“互动规则。”“不”是一个爱的回答——顺便说一句,它是一个完整的句子。

所以,是的,通常,“不”是最重要和最爱的与他人互动的方式。“适可而止。你尊重我,我会尊重你。”但当这一点被遗忘时,亲爱的存有们,你们与他人的互动和交流就不再推动。事实上,通过不注意互动规则,你们正在创造实际上从你们那里夺走的互动,而不是推动。你们在社会中看到了这一点,投射在你们之外,似乎是为了让你们做些什么。

所以,你们看到的是大量的索取——大量的索取、索取、索取——这种索取被揭露出来是为了什么?为了原谅。我们提醒你们,原谅并不意味着宽容。原谅理解到在你们周围发生的任何事情都是你们选择的后果。在你们周围发生的任何事情都来自你们内部,来自你们的想法——它是效果,它是产物,它不是根本原因。

所以,如果你们想看到改变——这是一个惊人的改变时刻——那么我们说,走进内心,理解自己,实践原谅。攻击其他政党的存有,或攻击其他教会、其他信仰或其他宗教的存有,正是继续升级你们今天看到的战争、暴力和侵略的原因。

所以,如果你们从内部开始,说,“我在哪里为这些问题做出了贡献?我在这些创造中的角色是什么?”那么,亲爱的爱们,你们就开始改变你们所看到的世界。就这么简单。确实很简单。所以我们邀请你们成为解决方案的一部分,我们邀请你们成为强大的创造者——或者接受或体现你们是强大的创造者——因为你们在世界上看到的,你们正在共同创造。

你们可能会说,“我不可能——我不可能参与那场战争。我认为它是可怕的。我不支持战争。”好吧,亲爱的爱们,当你们以任何方式攻击你们周围的人时,那就在世界范围内反映出来。当你们攻击自己时,那就在世界范围内反映出来。它在任何地方都被反映。形式会变,但本质是相同的。如果它不是由爱构成的,它就会被投射为非爱。

在这里,你们有一个惊人的机会,亲爱的爱们,改变你们的想法,选择爱。现在是时候了——你们生活的这个前所未有的时代——好吧,所有时间都是前所未有的,但我们使用你们能理解的词——是你们选择不同的完美风暴。让你们以不同的方式出现。

这意味着什么?好吧,如果你们一直在抱怨你们国家的政治局势,现在是时候做些什么了。如果你们能,你们可以成为活动家,或者你们可以参与你们的地方政府或更高级别的政府。如果那不适合你们,那么也许你们从一个更小的——让我们说——层面开始,比如美化你们的城市,教授《奇迹课程》的原则,参与社区活动,以某种方式将人们聚集在一起。现在是时候采取行动了。

正如我们经常说的,重要的是要记住,知识如果没有行动,确实是一种负担,亲爱的人类们。现在是时候了,这是一个兴奋的时刻。这是一个认识到、拥抱和鼓励那些推动而非索取的互动的时刻。这是一个让你们意识到,作为这个现实的创造者,你们是强大的,如果你们改变你们的想法——如果每个人都改变他们的想法——世界就会改变。那就是奇迹——思想的改变。

所以,亲爱的爱们,我们邀请你们向内看,加入希望的期待和兴奋,并在物理层面以任何你们能做到的方式加入前进的势头。我们还邀请你们意识到并体现你们是创造者的事实。你们是无限的创造者——你们就是这么强大。所以如果是这样,你们就不是正在发生的事情的受害者。

这些你们称之为 Donald Trump 和 Elon Musk 的存有只是催化剂——你们一直在请求的改变的催化剂。所以,无论你们在问题的哪一边,如果你们看到这些催化剂正在带来改变,你们能称它为坏的吗?没有坏也没有好。似乎很难让存有们在这个意识层面上理解这一点,我们认识到这一点。

但如果你们理解这个幻象是你们创造的——为了进化,为了体验一个实际上不存在的二元性——那么你们就会理解,没有向服务自我和服务他人的两极化,人类就不会进化。确实有过人类没有进化的时期。事实上,由于缺乏催化剂,他们退化了。

所以,如果你们承认现在正在发生的事情是你们创造的一部分——如果你们不评判自己,不把自己与他人分离——那么你们就会承认这个创造,你们就会从一个有利的位置来改变世界。一个存有可以改变世界,他们可以通过改变他们的想法来做到这一点。

所以,亲爱的爱们,我们对你们说:承认你们的创造,并做出选择,因为选择权在你们手中,与爱一致。那就是你们在这里的目的。如果你们执行那个使命——以爱为中心,谈论爱,并保持一致——你们会过得更好。你们会更好地度过风暴。风暴就在这里,你们把它带到了自己身上——不是作为惩罚,而是作为对你们祈祷的回应。

那么,你们为什么不欢庆呢?你们为什么不与那种能量连接,并说,“是的,我看到了这里的机会。我看到了人类在许多方面迷失了方向。我看到了不公正。我看到了侵犯。那不是我想要看到的世界。所以我要站起来,我要做我力所能及的事情来改变世界。”这可能,亲爱的爱们,是在你们自己家中的安静中。这可能是在你们自己内心的安静中。事实上,那就是它开始的地方。

我们理解,这些不安定的时期给存有们带来了很多焦虑,我们想谈谈时间。我们早些时候在你们称之为西班牙语的语言中进行了一次传输,我们谈论了时间和人类对时间的信仰。如果你们理解时间是你们思维的构造,是你们为了帮助学习而组合在一起的想法,那么你们就会从不存在的过去和未来中解脱出来,留在当下,知道那是唯一真实的。

所以,从这个当下,亲爱的爱们,好好看看你们周围,看看你们看到了什么。我们怀疑你们周围看到的是和平与宁静。好吧,你们中可能有些人正在外面走动,有一点骚动,但大多数人正坐在设备前,有一个美丽的机会接收无条件爱的能量。

所以,为什么不留在当下呢?当下是唯一存在的。现在的时刻是永恒的,就像你们一样。如果你们与那个真相一致,那么,亲爱的爱们,你们就再次——我们说——定位自己来改变世界。在需要原谅的地方应用原谅,并记住你们正在创造你们在外部看到的情况,你们在那里看到的是对你们祈祷的回应。

目前运作的系统是那些不爱、不利于大多数人的系统。所以你们为什么希望它们继续?问问自己。所以是的,我们理解改变是困难的,我们理解看到这些系统倒塌是有点令人不安的,但替代方案是什么?替代方案是继续朝着你们正在前进的方向前进,而我们听到了你们的祈祷——你们中的大多数人对事情的发展方向不满意。

所以,你们是改变的代理人吗?如果是这样,你们愿意做什么?亲爱的爱们,知道你们是无限的创造者,你们可以成为解决方案的一部分——这是一个非常好的时机来变得清晰,并说,“我想要成为这个改变的一部分。我想要成为一个有爱的存有。我想要通过首先爱自己、了解自己,然后以我能做到的最好方式为他人服务来服务他人。”

只要你们在这个地球层面上,你们就能够改变你们的想法。永远不会太迟。如果你们因为这些改变而失业,那么理解你们创造了那个——即使你们不知道。理解那是一个礼物,即使现在看起来不是。总有一个礼物。如果你们彻底接受你们所创造的,你们就能够看到你们所创造的情况中的礼物,这确实比认为你们是无辜的受害者而非主观现实的强大创造者要好。

现在是时候了,亲爱的爱们,现在是时候了。是时候为你们所相信的站起来。是时候与喜悦一致。我们经常说:幸福来去匆匆——它是短暂的,通常依赖于你们之外的事物——人、地方、事件等。但喜悦是你们的与生俱来的权利。喜悦是你们真正的本性。与那种情感——那种喜悦的美丽情感——一致,你们将改变世界,亲爱的爱们。

与兴奋一致。这是一个伟大的时刻。这是一个为你们以不同的方式出现的机会。不要浪费它。看清它的本质,并谦卑地理解正在发生的事情,你们可能看不到它的真相。所以谦卑地思考,“哦,如果这不是我所认为的那样呢?好吧,我将继续从爱的地方运作。”那是选择——爱或不爱。

我的名字是 Zena Allen。我们感谢有机会在这一神圣的日子里与你们交流。我们感谢有机会以希望的期待和兴奋的能量向你们传递爱。我们将再次交谈。


Tina Louise Spalding

谢谢,Carol 和 Zena。嗯,在我们开始提问之前,我只想让你们知道,Carol 的网站是 zenaallen.com,Carol 背后的那个可爱的符号是她的一幅调谐画(attunement)。她已经传输了将近 80 幅调谐画——这些图形信息来自 Zena,旨在帮助我们进行扬升过程。所以请访问 zenaallen.com,看看 Carol 的惊人工作。

当然,请访问 channelingjesus.com,查看我的东西。如果你们还没有读过我的书,它们是为这个时代设计的精彩书籍。十年前,我被赋予了写所有这些书的使命,它们是为这个时代设计的。所以,如果你们感到困惑,如果你们感到担忧,请访问 channelingjesus.com,你们可以查看一些书籍。它们很容易阅读,具有变革性,但它们是来自 Jesus 和 Ananda 为这个时代准备的。

所以,提问环节。Carol,我们该怎么做?


Carol Morgan

谢谢,Tina。好的,Ian 很友好地在这里把问题传给我。所以我将滚动并阅读一些问题。

我们有一个来自 Karen Burks 的问题。她问:“请问 Jesus:请澄清扬升大师(ascended masters)在意识进化中的角色。我们可以向他们寻求指导和帮助吗,还是我们应该只向你和上帝寻求?”


Jesus(由 Tina Louise Spalding 通灵)

你们确实是有福的存有。我是你们所知的 Jesus。你们会对某个灵性大师有亲近感。例如,这里的这个存有与你们所知的 Jesus 有亲近感,所以她与他交谈。亲爱的 Carol 与 Zena、Jesus 和 Ananda 等各种老师和指导者有亲近感。

你们可以信任自己的指导。你们被什么吸引?你们被佛教老师还是基督教老师吸引?你们是否正在从强烈的基督教教养中恢复,只感到与上帝或你们理解为上帝之子的 Jesus Christ 交谈舒适?你们知道自己与谁一致,这正是应该的。

扬升大师老师没有小我来被冒犯,所以你们不需要担心冒犯任何人。是你们的指导将引导你们到对你们来说正确的地方。

现在,有许多许多存有在这个时候协助地球,你们每个人都有个别指派的指导者和老师。然而,由于你们的世俗训练在许多情况下,以及由于你们的社交编程在许多情况下,你们设计了非常非常忙碌的生活,没有太多空间、开放和安静来倾听灵性指导。但它是无懈可击且恒定的,它是那种内心深处的感觉,认为一定有别的东西——一定有意义,一定有更多的事情要做。

这些是灵性会让你们感受到的小小的唠叨声音。小我的声音大声而喧闹,而且非常快。它是那个说“哦,是的,如果你压力大,就喝一杯马提尼。不要担心训练你的思维——再喝一杯。”它说,“去商场花点钱。即使你没有钱——去购物。它会让你感觉更好。”你们会感觉到上帝的声音和小我的声音之间的区别。

你们必须开始信任自己的内心世界。为什么世界如此分散注意力?为什么有那么多响亮、闪亮的东西来分散你们对内心世界的注意力?那就是为什么世界是这样的——它被设计成一种分散注意力。不要认为你们的灵性实践会导致无聊的生活。这两个存有没有无聊的生活。他们拥有你们能想象到的最令人兴奋和冒险的生活。

这是许多人害怕的事情。他们害怕走进去,安静下来,反思他们的内心世界——他们真正的内心想法——因为他们害怕那里有什么。也许他们的内心想法与他们在生活中做出的决定不一致。但你们的指导者和老师在那里帮助你们,当你们请求他们时,他们会帮助你们。我们不能把我们的意志强加于你们。你们有自由意志。你们可以选择你们想要的任何东西,你们想要的任何人,你们希望崇拜的偶像。这里是一个自由意志的地方,那就是你们中的许多人当然会遇到麻烦的原因。

你们选择崇拜错误的神,追随错误的偶像。但你们有这个指导系统,你们会知道,“这对我不起作用。我在这里不快乐。这不适合我。”那是你们的内在指导在说,“好吧,现在是改变的时候了。”所以信任你们的内在自我。但如果你们知道自己被深度灌输了,事实上,你们都已经被灌输了,老实说——我们建议你们做《奇迹课程》的课程,以真正重获自由意志,了解自己的内心,并用爱的概念取代你们的恐惧想法。那是我们的答案。


Carol Morgan

谢谢,Tina。好的,我们有一个来自 David Forena 的问题:“Trump 和他的团队是一股新鲜空气——至少现在是这样。他们在这么短的时间内做得很好。这次他们一上台就行动起来。蓝图是如何让一个人在头上贴着‘通缉令’的情况下活下来的?JFK 谈到了秘密社团,这让他很快离开了地球。我觉得 Trump 对体制的威胁比 JFK 更大。许多人的祈祷是否有助于他的安全,他对上帝的信任让他安全?谢谢 Zena。很好的问题。”


Zena Allen(由 Carol Morgan 通灵)

我的名字是 Zena。我的名字确实是 Zena Allen。重要的是要理解——是的——祈祷的力量。祈祷是一种将你们的能量导向你们想要的东西的方式。许多存有不知道他们想要什么,但他们仍然在创造。你们总是在创造,重要的是你们要理解这一点。如果你们不自觉,你们仍然在自动创造,你们在创造一个混合的货物,因为你们不在当下——你们不在此时此地——你们是无意识的。

当你们祈祷时,你们实际上是在将你们的能量导向你们想要的东西。如果你们有清晰的认识——在这种情况下,例如——你们对这些存有所做的事情感到兴奋,并为他们的安全祈祷,是的,你们为在你们的 timeline 中创造那个现实做出了贡献。

我们早些时候解释了时间——不是在这个传输中,而是早些时候,在你们称之为西班牙语的语言中——所有存在的只是当下。时间不是你们所认为的线性。所以有多个 timeline,如果你们想这样称呼它们,在当下同时发生。现实比你们所知道的要复杂得多,基于你们的频率、你们的理解和你们的创造——无论是有意识的还是无意识的——因此,基于你们的祈祷。你们开始塑造一个适合你们频率的现实。

如果你们的频率是这样,无论什么结果都会带给你们喜悦,你们将创造那个结果。但如果你们不与那个一致,你们将创造一个不同的结果。所以即使每个人都在地球上,也有多种现实同时发生。所以会有那些这个存有被带走的现实,也会有那些这个存有继续的现实,这都取决于存有的频率,基于你们的想法、选择和行动,以及灵魂的路径。

所以每个灵魂在来到这个化身之前都决定他们需要完成的主要里程碑——他们需要达到——以便他们的进化发生。如果这样的灵魂决定使用他们的自由意志来提高他们的频率,无论周围发生了什么,他们将错过那些里程碑或以对他们在化身中不那么困难的方式满足它们。

对于你们称之为 Donald Trump 和 Elon Musk 的存有来说,情况就是如此。如果你们看他们,他们正在做出大胆和勇敢的举动——无论你们是否同意,他们是大胆的,他们是勇敢的。非常勇敢——因为他们不符合全球主义议程,他们不符合现状。所以再次,无论你们同意与否,他们是改变者,改变人们习惯的事情需要很大的勇气,你们在某种程度上成为一个目标。

所以他们正在使用他们的自由意志来提高他们的频率并执行他们的使命。所以如果他们继续在他们的决定中与爱一致——无论你们是否理解它们,那是你们的判断——他们将错过那些目标或那些里程碑。他们将超越它们。所以如果 Donald Trump 在他的蓝图中被带走,而他选择提高他的频率,他错过了那个标记。

我们并不是说这就是正在发生的事情。我们不能在不侵犯他的自由意志的情况下透露这些信息。我们说的是,他有选择提高他的频率或不提高的权利,就像你们一样。如果他选择了不同,也许他会被带走。

所以我们希望你们从这个问题中理解的是,灵魂为一个化身选择了一个蓝图,那个蓝图有主要的里程碑,在它们之间有自由意志。所以你们可以选择你们的自由意志来超越那个战场,而不必打中那些标记。这些存有正在使用勇气,他们正在使用你们可能理解或不理解的技术。但这些存有确实是勇敢的。我们爱你们。


Carol Morgan

好的,我希望,David,这个回答了你的问题,对于每个人,我希望这是有帮助的。好的,有很多问题——让我看看。Tina,大多数是给你的。我们可以进行 10 小时的所有问题。

让我们看看这里。嗯,有一个问题——他们问:“Tina,Jesus,请问加拿大将迎来什么样的转变?”哦,好问题——因为你是加拿大人,你可能也对这个答案感兴趣。


Tina Louise Spalding

是的,我是。


Jesus(由 Tina Louise Spalding 通灵)

你们确实是有福的存有。我是你们所知的 Jesus。你们正在见证,在你们所知的加拿大国家中,一场类似于美国正在经历的启示。它——我们会说——落后于美国正在经历的启示大约八到十个月,来自美国的转变将大量涌入加拿大的投票公众。

如果你们是加拿大人,你们正在经历极高的通货膨胀,无法支付抵押贷款,无法自由发言,无法从世界各地获取新闻。社会主义的压迫正在侵蚀加拿大人民,他们正在深深地感受到它。

你们可能还记得,礼貌、安静的加拿大人民在 COVID 期间有点恼火,他们大规模地走出来。我们想让你们回想起 2022 年 2 月的卡车司机车队。这些存有勇敢地面对寒冷。他们勇敢地面对加拿大天气的冰冷风,不知道他们有多少人。这对加拿大人来说是一个非常感人的时刻,因为他们感到被压迫。他们感到被控制。他们感到被政府虐待,他们都穿着外套、mukluks 和 toques ——我们在这里使用加拿大词汇;你们可能不知道这些是什么——它们是毛茸茸的靴子和帽子。

然后加拿大人看到了他们有多少人。他们看到了有多少人对现状不满意。他们看到了有多少人对政府所做的事情不满意,在那个时候,加拿大人民发生了巨大的转变。

你们将看到世界各地的拖拉机和其他车辆的行列,模仿卡车司机车队,知道拥有大型机器的人确实可以给政府带来不便。所以那是加拿大人民的 sea change(巨变)。

然而,自那以后,加拿大人民没有得到自由和公开选举的好处。几年前的选举受到了干扰。这将随着来自美国的启示而浮出水面。人们将发现那些选举中存在干扰,加拿大人民的自由意志没有被倾听。

你们会注意到,加拿大政府现在正在做同样的事情——延长这个拖延的时间,以便他们可以尝试用肤浅的故事改变加拿大人的想法。但他们没有意识到在过去几年中发生了什么。普通加拿大人现在看到,如果这个政府继续下去,他们无法生活。他们无法保留他们的家园。他们无法支付卡车贷款。他们无法给汽车加油。他们正在到达他们的极限,就像他们对 mandates(命令)所做的那样。

所以,Pierre Trudeau 的儿子——Trudeau 政府——将被推翻。现在,那是一个——你们所说的——弗洛伊德式失言。儿子追随了父亲的脚步。然而,父亲并不是你们所想的那个人。父亲是另一个人,如果你们一直在关注新闻,你们就知道那个故事。

我们要对你们说的是,加拿大政府已经被强烈的左倾社会主义-共产主义影响渗透,加拿大人不是那样的。然而,在加拿大较年长的群体中,有一种信任政府、信任 CBC(加拿大广播公司)的传统,他们在他们的信仰体系中根深蒂固。

但对于年轻家庭来说,现实并非如此。许多这些追随旧的、传统的、既定系统的年长存有在财务上更加稳固。他们已经购买并支付了他们的房屋,或者他们创建了一个企业并收获了那些企业的回报。然而,20 多岁、30 多岁、40 多岁的年轻人,试图在这些价格下抚养孩子,是不会接受的。

所以,我们要告诉你们的是:尽管自由党的诡计,保守党政府将上台,它将扭转局势。它将谈判使用加拿大被赋予的美丽资源。我们要对你们说的是:Trump 攻击加拿大的原因是为了唤醒它。它可能会陷入自满。它受到了英国影响的影响。它不像美国那样建立在自由意志、幸福和喜悦的基础上。它仍然由英国王室统治——他们在成为总理时宣誓效忠王室——所以这对民众有影响。

但我们要告诉你们,生活成本的现实将扭转局势。Trump 不会把加拿大变成第 51 个州,尽管他很想。然而,一旦保守党政府上台,加拿大和美国将变得更加紧密地结盟,理解他们都受益于共享资源、共享贸易和公平的安排。

所以你们将看到保守党政府进入加拿大领域,你们将看到更加紧密的一致。保守党政府和美国政府之间将不会有争斗。事实上,会有关于如何促进两国利益的伟大讨论。所以那是我们未来看到的。

我们理解对 Donald Trump 展示他的力量有很大的担忧,但我们希望你们理解——看看正在发生的事情——有关于和平的讨论,有关于关税的讨论,有关于边界的讨论。这些事情在以前都没有发生过。他展示了他的力量。他吓到了一些人。他吓到了一些政府,他们正在四处奔波,试图弄清楚如何管理他。那是他的 MO(手法)——全力以赴,唤醒人们。那是他在扬升中的工作——唤醒人们——那就是你们在接下来几年将继续看到的。


Carol Morgan

好的,Tina,我们还有五分钟。你想做什么?你想再做一个 Zena 的问题吗?

好的,让我们看看。我们有一个很长的——非常长的——Zena 的问题在这里。我不知道那个现在是不是一个好主意——它真的很长。让我看看还有什么。大多数是给你的,不出所料。嗯,让我浏览这些。伙计们,谢谢你们的耐心——有很多问题进来。

我也想让你们欣赏 Carol 如何能够通灵然后做问答问题。她非常有才华——非常有才华的女士。

谢谢——在这里多任务处理。你们知道,我想——我将今晚从你们那里得到一些问题,然后,嗯,我会做另一个视频回答一些这些问题,因为我理解我们做了长时间的通灵,而且——我敢肯定,当我们做问答时,对人们来说总是很沮丧,因为我们不能回答所有问题。所以,嗯,我们为什么不这样做——如果你愿意——我们为什么不这样做?我们现在结束,我会从你们那里得到问题,嗯,我会在明天或后天再做另一个视频。

听起来不错,因为,是的,大多数问题当然是给你的,而且有一些非常长的问题给 Zena,我们还有三分钟。


Tina Louise Spalding

好的,好的,我们就到这里结束吧。嗯,你有什么结束语想说关于 Zena 或你的社区或任何事情吗,Carol?

哦,太好了。嗯,是的,谢谢大家。你们现在可以在任何地方,你们选择在这里。嗯,没有你们,我们就不会在这里,所以非常感谢你们在这里,感谢你们所做的工作,因为你们在澄清你们思维方面所做的工作正在对集体意识产生直接影响。

所以不要放弃你们的原谅和选择爱的实践。请继续这样做,请继续倾听你们的内在指导。无论你们从我们或其他来源听到了什么,请继续使用你们的内在指导来决定什么与你们共鸣,如果有什么共鸣,请做点什么。

至于我的工作,是的,我兼职管理 Tina 的业务,但我也有我自己的灵性实践和社区。所以 Ian 很友好地把我们的网站都放在了聊天中。我做私人通灵会话,我做指导,我有一个私人的付费社区和一个免费的。所以如果你们想了解更多关于 Zena 的工作,请访问 zenaallen.com。再次,Tina,非常感谢这个机会。

再见。

原文段落

Tina Louise Spalding

Excited to have this opportunity to discuss the subject. It’s a global subject, so, um, how far—how long is the, um, delay, do you know?

Well, right now it is connecting to Zo—to Zoom, to YouTube—YouTu—okay, yeah. So just bear with us a minute. Um, membership people, we’re just gonna hook up to Zoom here and then we’ll do the—okay, we are live, Tina, so I will turn it over to you.

Okay, uh, thank you everyone for joining Carol Morgan and me tonight. Uh, for those of you that are not members in the Channeling Jesus Community, uh, this is Carol Morgan. You know who I am—this is Carol Morgan. She is my business manager and I would say best friend. We talk almost every single day and, uh, she is an amazing channel and she channels a being called Zena Allen. And she began channeling about six and a half years ago or so, and I’ll just let her tell you who Zena Allen is because I will be channeling Jesus for half an hour and then Carol will be channeling Zena for half an hour. So go ahead, Carol.

So the way this is going to work is I will channel Jesus for half an hour, then Carol will channel Zena Allen for half an hour, and then we will do Q&A for half an hour. Uh, so if, when you’re asking a question on YouTube, uh, those of you on Zoom can just, uh, ask the question in the chat like you normally do. Those of you on YouTube, if you would like to ask a question, please put on it whether—whether the question is for Jesus or Zena so that way we’ll—we’ll alternate or take turns on whoever’s answering those questions.

So, um, there’s been quite a lot of kafuffle going on in America over Elon and Trump, and of course it’s sending ripples around the world—to Ukraine, to Israel, all over the place, to Canada where I’m from. And so we wanted to do this event so that we could go into some detail about what’s happening from a spiritual point of view. Now, I understand everybody has very, um, strong political opinions, but if you’re here—here, part of the reason we’re doing this is so that you can get a higher view of what’s going on and not be stuck in the ego’s, uh, anger or judgment or fear. Uh, so I will, uh, bring Jesus through now and we will see what he has to say about Trump and Elon transforming America and ripples around the world.

Okay, thank you so much, Tina. Beautiful.


Carol Morgan

Thank you so much for the introduction, Tina, and for the invitation. This was Tina’s idea, so I am just very grateful to be a part of this unprecedented event. As Tina says, my name is Carol Morgan, and Zena Allen, who I channel, is Blue Avian Consciousness. Uh, they were introduced to me in Taiwan while Tina was channeling Jesus there, and ever since, their relationship with me has evolved. It has changed, and now our mission is to help humanity break free. So what we’re doing today is very much in alignment with their mission. So once again, thank you for being here. Really, really appreciate it.


Jesus (Channeled by Tina Louise Spalding)

You are blessed beings indeed. I am that one that you know as Jesus. You are here for a reason. You have been drawn to this livestream for a reason. So the first thing we would like you to do is to just accept that you are here for your benefit and that your consciousness is a match for this information.

What we want you to understand at this time is that we have been, uh, giving this message for quite, quite a while on this channel, which is that there is a massive transformation coming to your planet, and it is part of the Ascension process. When you encounter change in your ego mind—for those of you that do not understand what the ego mind is, we will tell you briefly—it is the part of your mind that believes in separation. It is the part of your mind that believes in death and fear, and it is the part of your consciousness that has brought you into this body-mind complex at this time.

Unity Consciousness, Christ Consciousness, does not require a body and any kind of individuality in the form that you are experiencing. And so, just being in a human body in this time, on this planet, in the Ascension experience, is a challenge for you because part of you is connected to Spirit, part of you believes in ego. And so, what you’re witnessing at this time, as these immense changes are just beginning—you all went through some big changes in 2020, 2021, and 2022—that was a big wave of transformation and revelation. Many of you saw things for what they were for the first time during those years. What this is, is a second iteration of evolution.

Now, those of you that are against what is happening, we have some very good news for you. You too are going to evolve, even if you don’t agree with what is happening. How can this happen? Well, what is happening is a breakdown of the old systems, and as you can witness, even in the last day or so, the ripples splashing around the planet are causing all global leaders to shift and change their behavior.

This is coming from a place of fear for most of them because the old system is not working anymore, and the new kid in town—or the new kids in town—are causing some waves and ruffling some feathers. So the old systems, the ones that have been in charge for a very long time, are panicking. They’re panicking because their source of energy is shifting and changing, and they do not know how to cope with it. And so they are scrambling to try and maneuver and control the effects of the decisions that are being made in the United States.

The decisions that are being made in the United States are part of the blueprint of the two most influential people involved in those decisions. You know them as Donald Trump and Elon Musk. These beings have assignments on this planet, as all beings have assignments on this planet. They have come in as disruptive influencers who seek to strengthen freedom and dissipate fear.

Now, those of you that disagree with what they are doing, you are feeling fear. What we want you to understand at this time in your evolution is that you need to see what you are afraid of, and you cannot see what you are afraid of until you are poked a little bit with a stick. So, for example, if you are in a long-term marriage and one of you is dependent on the other for income, there is a bond that is often strengthened by the—we will say less wealthy—of the two beings to stick together because the idea of losing the income is terrifying.

This is really what’s happening to many—what you would say are on the left. They have been in a marriage where they have been supported financially. They have been in a marriage where their weaknesses have been supported by the government—not only in the United States but the global system of government. And we will tell you this: there has been, up until this point, a global government. You witnessed it during the COVID epidemic—a global government. When countries all respond en masse in the same way, you know that there is something afoot, and that was your first clue that the national boundaries that you believe in are not as you suspect.

However, with these disruptive influences gaining, uh, power, we will say, within the United States of America, these two beings are not part of a global governance system. They have, in their blueprint, been given an opportunity to assist in the Ascension process. Now, uh, those beings that are on the left, as you call it, or who are, uh, deeply enmeshed with the global government, are very, very unhappy about what is happening because they are not in control of this process.

And so, we want to bring forth this information so that those of you who are fearful understand that you have been wrapped in a big fuzzy blanket of government spending, and now the blanket is being pulled off. It’s been around you for a long time—whether you are a government employee, whether you are, um, working for established systems such as banking, such as the school system, such as immigration—these kinds of systems, they are now—those beings that are in those established systems feel vulnerable.

And we want you to understand this: that the ego consciousness within which you have been raised, that has been strengthened and fed by your society, is being given an opportunity to strengthen yourself, to not be coddled. So we will tell you about, for example, a teenager who is living at home in their parents’ house. They turn 20, they turn 22, they turn 24, and they stay in the house. They stay with their mother cooking the meals, they stay with their finances being taken care of, and there comes a point when all of you understand that it’s important for that being to leave home, stretch their wings, strengthen their wings, and find their way in the world.

And this is the situation that many people on the left find themselves in at this time. Why? Because the global governance system has been supporting weakness, has been supporting co-dependence. And when you are in a weakened state—and you have been put into a weakened state by your television shows, your movies, your diet, your medications—you have been put into a weakened state, and so it is very, very appealing and very, very comforting to be looked after by somebody.

So what you are seeing now with these new appointments in this new government, you are seeing beings who are not going to coddle you. They are not going to give you everything that you have had, just like the 25-year-old living in the basement. At some point, Mom and Dad come downstairs and say, “We’re not paying for your Wi-Fi anymore. We’re not paying for your phone anymore. You need to get a job, and you need to look for somewhere else to live.” What does that young being feel when it has been coddled, when it has been nurtured in this way—overly nurtured, we will say?

This is what is happening to many beings around the planet—not through any fault of their own. They have been, through your social media systems, taught to do this. You have been taught in your school systems to bow down to authority, to do as you’re told, to only speak when asked. You have all been indoctrinated in this way, and you were told that it was your education and that it was good for you. But you have all been through this indoctrination program, and so, from the deepest parts of your personality, you are now being challenged.

For those of you that are excited about what is happening, we want you to understand that you are in alignment with the shifts and changes that are being forced upon the world. Forced upon the world—that seems like a dramatic thing to say. Indeed, it is forced upon those who do not, on the surface, agree because of their political leanings. But we will tell you this: everyone on this planet has been praying. Everyone on this planet wants to be free.

Many people changed their minds during ’21 and ’22 when there were intense restrictions placed upon your freedom, and many of you woke up during that two- or three-year period to the desire to be free. Other beings aligned with the desire to be looked after—and we will say ordered around. So what you have at play on your planet at this time is a massive bifurcation of the political spectrum—in the pro-government, uh, pro-old-government part of the political spectrum—who have been praying.

They have been praying for help because costs are going up. They have been praying for health because they have been inflicted with sickness. They have been praying for love and connection because they’ve been isolated. And what we want you to understand is that Spirit listens to your true heart’s desires. Spirit does not look at your face smiling when you are sad. It does not listen to your words “I’m okay” even when I’m not. It listens to your true heartfelt desires.

And what has happened in this period is that the critical number of beings on this planet praying for transformation, help, love, fairness, and equality has reached a critical mass. We are not speaking about equity. We are not speaking about these subjects that are so controversial at this time in your government system that is wreaking havoc in so many places. We are not speaking about diversity, equity, and inclusion. We here are speaking about spiritual evolution.

It is now natural for you to want to be free. It is natural for you to be creative. It is natural for you to love. Why is it natural for you to do these things? It is natural because you are made in the image of the Creator, and the Creator is free, creative, and loving, and you are made in the same way. However, you have been through deep indoctrination programs—through your schooling system, through your televisions, and your movies.

And what you noticed during the COVID experience was that certain people who watched certain channels behaved in certain ways, and this is the evidence that you need to reflect upon when you are looking at your own inner world at this time. What and who are you watching? What and who are they talking about, and how are they talking about it?

We want you to understand that there is an Ascension process underway, and it is not going to stop. It is inevitable, and every single one of you is going to go through it. Now, these beings who are what we call Course in Miracles students have been dissolving their ego minds systematically for years and years. Many of you that are watching this on YouTube have listened to us for years and years talking about this clarification of mind that is necessary so that you regain your free will.

And this is what we want to emphasize at this time: that it is so important for you to have your free will. And when you seek information that is in alignment with restriction, with dependency, with loss of freedom, with control, your mind is contaminated. It is not your true self. It is not your true nature that you are experiencing. And when you feel fear or confusion, worry about the future—that negative feeling that you are having is letting you know that you are off track.

Those beings that are applauding the transformations and the changes—the change to equality, for example—we will refer to this in this idea of reciprocity that this being, Mr. Trump, is, uh, asking you all to participate in. This idea of “treat your neighbors as you would have them treat you” is the Golden Rule, and this is, in fact, what he is following. He is looking at what a certain country is doing to the United States, and he is saying, “Okay, good for the goose, good for the gander,” and he is reciprocating. He is reflecting back to those countries what they are, in fact, doing to the United States.

This is a new experience for them. They don’t know what’s happening. This is a more evolved system—rather than one system, uh, rather than one country paying for another country’s benefit, it is now becoming equalized. Now, of course, if you think back to the marriage scenario that we talked about a little earlier, the person who is not in charge of their finances, who has been in a dependent relationship, is going to feel fear at any idea of leaving that coddling system.

But from a spiritual point of view, we want you to understand that you have all come here to grow and to expand, to learn, to create, and to be your true selves. This does not work when you’re restricted. This does not work when you’re underpowered. This does not work when you’re fearful.

So what is happening now is an opportunity for everybody to feel their fear, to feel their hatred, to feel their judgment. You were given the first iteration of it during COVID. You got to see what people truly believed in, and the beings that truly believed in whichever side they took—two, three, four, five years later—are beginning to see the true consequences of the thing that they believed in.

The same thing is going to happen now. You are going to see what people believe in. Do they believe in strength, or do they believe in weakness? Do they believe in courage, or do they believe in cowardice? Do they believe in transparency, or do they believe in deception? This is what is happening right now, and it is for everyone’s benefit.

Because during the Ascension process, everyone must see what they believe in, and they must use their free will to choose what they believe in. And when you choose what you believe in based on your own guidance, based on your inner feelings, then you will reap the harvest of that decision.

Now, if that sounds like a threat, it is important for you to look at that because anybody who is in alignment with love, creativity, and freedom will not feel that that is a threat. So there’s a clue for you there. If our words make you feel that you harvesting the crop from the ideas that you are strengthening and supporting now feels like a threat, that’s a little bit of guidance for you. That’s a little bit of fear letting you know that you are off track.

And so, as you watch this play out on the news—which everybody is watching—we are astounded at the number of beings who are involved in this process. We want you to go inside and listen to whenever you feel fear. Whenever you feel fear by the world speaking to you—that’s what’s happening when you’re on your TVs or your social media—the world is showing itself to you. You should not feel fear.

What we want you to understand is that you are an eternal spiritual being. You are connected to the Divine, and the Divine is sending you messages of freedom, creativity, and love. And when you are in alignment with freedom, creativity, and love, you will not feel fear. You will feel good. You will feel eager anticipation. You will feel excitement. And that is the gift that has been given to you by the Divine—your guidance system.

However, as we have mentioned many times before, your guidance system can be overridden by deeply indoctrinated conditioning programs, and you are all faced with this in the society. You have no idea how deeply indoctrinated many of you are. Those beings who have been doing A Course in Miracles lessons and freeing their minds do begin to see how deeply indoctrinated they are and how their beliefs have led them astray in their choices.

But we want you—whoever is listening to this on YouTube—we want you to understand that your feelings are clear. You always know how you feel. You always know whether or not you want to speak to that person, whether or not you want to go to work. You know always, and that is your guidance system. It is impeccable and constant, and you can trust it. It will not make you frightened.

What makes you frightened is a threat to your ego mind and a threat to your conditioning programs. Conditioning programs are inserted into your mind, often with fear, often with intimidation from your families, your churches, your religions, your TV—all of these things. You must understand that spiritual guidance will always feel good. It will always feel good.

So if you are raging, if you are hurt, if you are terrified, understand that this is a survival response from the ego mind, and you are tapped into something that is not strong, that is vicious and violent and weak. Your guidance system—that thing that says, “Go over here and look at this fun thing,” “Go over here and strengthen yourself,” “Go over here and communicate lovingly with another person”—that is guidance coming from Spirit.

And we are not saying that anybody on one side or the other has sole access to guidance. You all do. It is a gift given to you by the Divine when you come into this separated state. It is designed to help you make decisions.

And so that’s what we want to point to at this time on the Earth plane. You are in the Ascension process. What that means is this: that anything—any idea that lives in your mind that is not loving—is going to arise. It is going to come to the surface, and it is going to feel chaotic if it is acknowledged as the truth when, in fact, it is a lie.

You do not need to fear. You are creative beings guided by the Divine. You all have teachers and guides who are waiting to communicate with you and, in fact, communicate with you all the time. If we can’t communicate with you in the daytime, we will communicate with you in your dream state. So we would suggest that all of you that are struggling at this time, that you begin a dream journal and you ask to be shown how you can be helped during this time.

If you are feeling fear, if you are feeling concern, your ego has been triggered, and that means that you have gone down into the most primitive part of your ability to think. For those of you that are joyous, that are exuberant, that see this as a good thing, you are more in alignment with truth. And we don’t want to offend anybody here, but we will tell you that the two beings that are causing these ripples around the planet are indeed doing it as part of their blueprint, as part of their assignment to shake the world up.

Why? Because the systems that have been at play on this planet for a very long time have not only revealed themselves to be dictatorial but corrupt as well. Reflect back upon your COVID years. That was a dictatorial time when your freedoms were completely removed from you. Only those that had already learned that lesson were able to choose freedom, and there were a lot of people who chose freedom.

We have told those beings, “How did they know what to do? How did they know what to align with?” And we say to you, “You’d already learned that lesson. You didn’t need to learn that lesson again.” So those of you that feel fear or worry about the future, that are concerned about the actions that you are seeing playing out on this planet, we will say to you, “You are in for your lesson.” This is not a punishment. This is part of the Ascension process. This is part of your spiritual evolution.

And we want you to see your fears. When they surface, it means you know they’re there. Tell them to speak to you. Write down what your fears are. Write down what you think is going to happen that’s bad, and understand that this is your subconscious mind revealing itself to you. It is scared. It is lonely. It feels that it lacks enough internal fortitude to be able to weather the storm—but that is a lie. That is not true. But you have to see it. You have to understand what’s driving you. You have to understand what’s driving those people who are terrified. They are in survival mode—the lowest form of consciousness that exists. It is the reptilian brain. It is the part of your consciousness that will kill to survive.

So we ask all of you to rise above this battleground, to accept that this world is shifting, that this world is changing, and that these two beings that are flexing their muscles so extravagantly are indeed following spiritual guidance. Your world is in for massive shifts. We’ve been telling you this for a long time. We’ve been telling you to invest in tangible assets. We’ve been telling you to improve your homes, improve your health—all of these kinds of things—because when there’s a storm, you need to be strong. When there’s a storm, you need to know that your house, your home, is secure, that your house is built on solid rock and not on shifting sands.

So for those of you that feel destabilized, for those of you that feel that your home is not safe, that you’re not safe, you have built it on shifting sands, and you need now—now—to go to these teachings of love and forgiveness and joy. You need to understand that there are two streams of information coming through your consciousness: one from conditioning programs that are riddled with fear and death and deprivation, and another stream of messages coming from your guides and teachers that are going to help you. They’re going to help you make decisions. They’re going to strengthen you. They’re going to assist you in understanding that you are not weak. You are a divine spiritual being, and you are here for a reason—because you wanted to evolve. You wanted to have this opportunity to grow, and now is the time to do it. Now is the time to do it.

I am that one that you know as Jesus. My teachings 2,000 years ago were no different than this time. It was a time of oppression and control and high taxation, and people felt powerless, that they could not do anything to stop the tyrants that were ruling over them. I was teaching the same lesson then: You are divine spiritual beings. You may think you’re an ordinary human. You’ve been told that you only have one vote and that’s all you can do, and that is a lie. You are powerful beyond your ability to comprehend. You are loving beyond your ability to comprehend. You are loved beyond your ability to comprehend.

And we want you to begin to step into your strength, step into your power. Meditate. Ask your guides and teachers to assist you in stepping into your power. You all have been given an assignment in this spiritual season. Many of you know what it is. You’ve had this feeling: “I should be a teacher,” “I should be an artist,” “I should be a singer,” “I should be a gardener,” “I should be a daycare provider.” Are you doing it? Now is the time to step away from co-dependent relationships with employers and governments and to invest in yourself—in your education, in your health, in your investments—not only in yourself but financially. Stop wasting money on things you don’t need. Stop going into debt. Begin to manage yourself the way these radical transformers are beginning to manage the government.

This is a demonstration for all of you that are behind the eight ball financially. Get your house in order. Get your health in order. Get your mind in order. You want to participate in the Ascension. You do not want to be taking the wrong fork in the road. You do not want that. You want to be connected to your power source. You want to be connected to your spiritual guidance, and it is there that you will hear the truth, and it is there that you will be told the best path for you in these transformative times.

So in closing, we want you to understand that these transformative times are for your benefit. They are for you to see how it’s done. They are for you to see someone saying, “No, we’re not doing this anymore. It’s not fair.” It is time for you to see someone saying, “This has been a really great gravy train for you. It is coming to an end.” It’s good for you to see these things. Are you on a gravy train somewhere? Have you been mollycoddling yourself too much? Have you been weakening yourself with a poor diet of bad TV and bad food?

Look at the transformations that are happening in all of the major departments of the United States government—seeking health, seeking justice, seeking freedom, seeking financial responsibility. These are demonstrations of good practices, and you can learn from them—all of you, even those of you that are in support of these transformative policies. Are you managing your household soundly? Are you managing your health soundly? Are you managing your words and your integrity soundly?

So that’s what we want you to do. This is a demonstration. Look at it. Don’t get caught in the weeds. Don’t get caught in the battles over minutiae, but look at this as an opportunity for you to see yourself reflected back to you. Are you strong, guided by good, guided by right, guided by fairness, guided by even-handedness, guided by love? That is the question for each of you. What are you being guided by?

If you feel excited at the things that you are watching, use that excitement to energize your life. Use that excitement to energize your purpose. Use that excitement to become eagerly anticipating your next step to tomorrow when you get up after you’ve listened to this pep talk—and that’s what it is, indeed, it is a pep talk. Ask yourself, “What can I do today to get closer to my purpose? What can I do today to be loving to myself first and then to others?”

And we want to remind you that loving yourself is perfectly fine. Suffering and sacrifice are not required, as many of you have been told—been told that they are holy—and they are not holy. They weaken you, and they confuse you. God wants you to be happy. The Spirit wants you to be happy, and that’s why happy feels so good. So align with happy, align with good, align with integrity, and begin to play this game yourself. It is going to be very beneficial to you in the coming years to be strong, to have integrity, and to align with love. We will speak to you again soon.


Carol Morgan

Before I get to channeling, there is a question here for you, okay? Where—let me see, hang on, there’s a lot of stuff that is coming through here. Uh, I want to thank Ian for helping us, uh, pass the questions here so they can be read. There is a lot coming in.

Yes, I’m sure. So what would we do without him? So the question here is from Don. She’s wondering—just curious—when you channel Jesus but say “we,” who is “we”?


Tina Louise Spalding

Uh, my understanding is that “I” is a very separation-focused statement, and that’s how we refer to ourselves: “I want this” or “I want that.” Jesus is clearly part of a collective, uh, and that’s why he says “we” so often. He’s part of a collective. He’s not working in isolation. I do, in fact, think he’s part of Ananda—the group consciousness that first contacted me. Um, information about Jesus came through immediately through Ananda, and they are a group consciousness of 2,500 beings. So I believe that Jesus is part of Ananda, and so “we” is the natural word that you would use in a group. So, uh, that’s why he uses the word.

Thank you very much, and let’s see what Zena has to say.


Zena Allen (Channeled by Carol Morgan)

My name is Zena. My name is Zena Allen, indeed, and what a joy it is—a pleasure for us—to have the opportunity to commune with beings that are curious, beings that are open to entertaining the questions “What if?” and “Why not?” The beings that happen to be with us today are entertaining such questions, whether they are conscious of this or not. They are trying to figure out, “What if—what if this is a certain way? What if I start looking at the world differently? Why not entertain that possibility that I don’t know everything I think I know? And what if I don’t know what anything is for?”

It is a pleasure for us because we see an opening. When a being questions, we see an opening. My name is Zena. I am not Zena—for those of you that have not been privy to our work before, my name is such because humans like to categorize. They like to label, and it calms your system—your nervous system—to hear a name so that you can put it in one of your categories. But I am not Zena. I am consciousness. We are a collective of Blue Avian beings, and our mission with humanity through this being is to help simplify spiritual information so that you may break free. And the time is now, dear beings, and this is why we are so excited for this opportunity.

Our message to you today is one of hope. If you are not feeling hopeful expectation and excitement at this time—which, by the way, it is the energy from which we transmit and which we hope touches your heart on this divine and sacred day—then there must be something inside of you that needs to be looked at. We will expand.

We understand that there is much unrest on your plane at this time. We understand that there are many beings that are suffering and that are having a really hard time. And we’re not talking about the beings that are at home watching the news, feeling bad about what is going on. We are talking about the beings that are being oppressed, the beings that are being censored, the beings that are being bombed at this time, that are being attacked, that are in the middle of war. Those beings have had and are having a very specific experience at this time, and those are not the beings that we are communicating about at this time.

We are communicating about the beings that are home, listening to our message, that are not active in what is happening—seemingly active in what is happening. Why do we use the word “seemingly”? Because all of you—all of us—are creating this reality with our every thought, and it is important that you remember, even when you are at home in the comfort of your beingness, that every single thought that you are having is being uploaded to what we like to call the mothership, or the main computer, or the mainframe, if you will. That is what you come here for. You come here for experience, and your experiences are uploaded. But dear beings, so are your thoughts.

So, to those that are suffering and truly are not in the middle of this really, really tough situation, we say to you: This is a time to look within and ask yourself, “Why are you suffering?”

Weird—I heard something. Is everything okay with the sound? Dely made a bark. Sorry. Oh, okay, okay, I’ll turn—I’m muting myself. Okay, no problem.

My name is Zena, and we are back. So we ask you—ask yourselves, “What is going on inside of you?” Because, dear loves, this is truly a time for excitement. We will explain.

The changes that you are seeing in the world today—because although the topic for these two beings is the United States and the beings that you name Trump and you name Elon, although that is the topic—truly, what is happening is happening at a global scale. So why—why is this taking place? This change is taking place because you are ready, because beings have been asking for change. They have been praying for change, and this is the effect of those prayers.

The systems that have been put in place are systems that do not benefit the majority. They are benefiting a small elite—the beings that are amassing lots and lots and lots of financial wealth keep shrinking and shrinking and shrinking, while the masses continue to lose and lose and lose. So the systems that are at play are not beneficial to all, and what you are seeing at this time is the effects of all of you asking for change. But what is interesting is that you ask for change, and yet you don’t want to go through the discomfort of change.

Change is going to make you uncomfortable, dear loves, because even if you have a situation that is not beneficial for you, you are used to it. And when change comes, it makes you unsettled. So our message to you, dear loves, is to remember that you have asked for change and to remember that the universe is a feedback loop that always brings back to you what you have put out.

This is important because, dear loves, this is the time to align yourselves with love. This is the time to use your God-given gift of free will and choose love rather than fear, and stand up for what you believe and be congruent, dear loves. It matters not on what side of the fence you are. It matters not if you are a Democrat or if you are a Republican, if you are conservative or if you are a liberal. It matters not. What matters, dear loves, is that you align yourselves with love.

And our call for you today—for sovereignty and for freedom—is to remember that beings can disagree, and yet you can coexist. This is being forgotten, even in the light of your prayers being answered. So you do not want the ego to override the beauty of what you have asked for, which is that change. You do not want the ego to take over now.

This is not to say that the ego mind does not have its rightful place. We say this time and time again when we transmit: The ego has its rightful place, and that is to preserve your physical structure when it is needed—when you are crossing a busy street, when you are in danger in a whitewater rafting trip, whatever the case may be. It is there to preserve your structure—a structure that is allowing for a particular set of experiences. But other than that, dear loves, the ego is to be put in the backseat.

And right now, even those that have been praying for change and are seeing the change are forgetting this and are allowing the ego to take over, and they are allowing for separation to continue. So we say to you, dear loves, take a pause. Take a deep breath and say, “What is it that I stand for? What is important to me? Am I being congruent, and am I choosing love?”

If you take a pause and you ask yourselves these questions, you will better understand yourself and your motivations—what makes you tick, why you do what you do, what you think and why. And in knowing thyself, dear love, you will know your other selves—those beings that seem to be separate from you—are having a different and valid experience. And we would love for you to remember that the next time that you’re going to have a charged political discussion. It is okay to disagree, but it is important to respect each other, and that is possible.

So again, we say, on whatever side of the issues you are, remember to agree to disagree with respect and remember that boundaries are not healthy. And we become controversial when we say this because it has become mainstream, even in spiritual circles, that boundaries are an important thing. Let us make ourselves clear here: A boundary is separation. A boundary is not healthy.

Now, what we mean with this is that it’s important for beings to understand that it is not in bringing up walls around your heart and separating other beings—because really what you’re doing is you’re pushing yourselves away. What is important is to understand how to engage with the other beings and if or not to engage with them. We call this “Rules of Engagement.” “No” is a loving answer—and by the way, it’s a complete sentence.

So yes, very often, “no” is the most important and the most loving way to engage with another being. “Enough is enough. You respect me, I will respect you.” But when this is forgotten, dear beings, the engagements and the interactions that you have with other beings are not propelling. In fact, by not paying attention to Rules of Engagement, you are creating, in effect, interactions that, rather than propel, take from you. And you are seeing this in society, projected seemingly outside of you, for you to do something about it.

So what you are seeing is a lot of taking—a lot of taking, a lot of taking—and this taking is coming out to the light for what? For forgiveness. We remind you that forgiveness does not mean condoning. Forgiveness understands that whatever is happening around you in your realm is an effect of your choices. Whatever is happening around you is from within you, from your thoughts—it’s an effect, it’s the product, it’s not the root cause.

So if you want to see change—and this is an amazing time for change—then we say, go within and understand yourselves and practice forgiveness. Attacking the beings from the other political party or attacking the beings from the other church or the other faith or the other religion is what has continued to escalate the wars that you see today, the violence and the aggressions that you see today.

So if you start within and you say, “Where am I contributing to these issues? What is my role in these creations?” then, dear loves, you start changing the world that you see. It is that simple. It is simple indeed. So we invite you to become a part of the solution, and we invite you to become the powerful creator—or accept or embody the powerful creator—that you are, because what you are seeing in the world, you are co-creating.

You may want to say, “There is no way—there is no way that I am participating in that war. I think it’s atrocious. I do not stand for war.” Well, dear loves, when you attack others in any way around you, that is reflected across the world. When you attack yourself, that is reflected across the world. It is reflected everywhere. The form changes, but the essence is the same. If it is not made of love, it is projected as not love.

And here you have an amazing opportunity, dear loves, to change your minds and choose love. This is the time—this unprecedented time that you are living in—well, all time is unprecedented, but we use words that you can understand—is the perfect storm, let’s call it, for you to choose differently, for you to show up differently.

What does that mean? Well, if you have been complaining about the political situation in your country, this is a time to do something about it. If you are able to, you can go ahead and become an activist, or you can become engaged in your local government or beyond. If that is not for you, then perhaps you start at a smaller—let us say—level, in just beautifying your city, in teaching principles of A Course in Miracles, in engaging in community activities, engaging in bringing people together in one form or another. This is a time to take action.

As we often say, it is important for beings to remember that knowledge without action is truly a liability, dear humans. The time is now, and this is a time for excitement. This is a time to recognize and embrace and encourage those interactions that propel rather than take. It is a time for you to realize that, as the creators of this reality, you are powerful, and that if you change your mind—and if each one person changes their mind—the world changes. And that is the miracle—the change of mind.

So, dear loves, we invite you to look in and join in the hopeful expectation and excitement and join at the physical level in whatever way that you can in a forward momentum. We also invite you to become aware and embody the fact that you are the Creator. You are the one infinite creator—that is how powerful you are. So if that is the case, you are not a victim of what is happening.

And these beings that you call Donald Trump and Elon Musk are simply catalysts—catalysts for change that you have been asking for. So, on whatever side of the issue you are, if you see that these catalysts are bringing about change, can you call it bad? There is no bad and no good. It seems very difficult for beings to understand this at this level of consciousness, and we recognize that.

But if you understand that this illusion is of your making—in order to evolve, in order to experience a dualism that does not truly exist—then you’re going to understand that without the polarization towards service to self and service to others, humanity does not evolve. And it has happened—there have been times where humans have not evolved. In fact, they have devolved because of the absence of catalysts.

So if you own what is happening right now as part of your creation—if you preclude yourself from judgment and separating yourself from other beings—then you’re going to own this creation, and you’re going to position yourself from the vantage point from which you can change the world. One being can change the world, and they can do so by changing their mind.

So, dear loves, we say to you: Own your creations and make the choice, because the choice is yours to align yourselves with love. That is what you are here for. If you carry out that mission of centering yourself with love, speaking of love, and becoming congruent, you are going to be better off. You’re going to weather the storm better. The storm is here, and you have brought it upon yourselves—not as punishment, but as the answer to your prayers.

So how about you rejoice? How about you connect with that energy and you say, “Yes, I see the opportunities here. I see that humanity, in many ways, has lost its way. I see the injustices. I see the violations. That is not the world that I want to see. So I’m going to stand up, and I’m going to do what is in my power to change the world.” And it might be, dear loves, in the quiet of your own home. It might be in the quiet of your own hearts. In fact, that is where it begins.

We understand that these times of unrest bring a lot of anxiety in beings, and we would like to talk about time. We had a transmission earlier in the language that you call Spanish, where we were speaking about time and the belief of humans in time. If you understand that time is a construct of your mind and it’s an idea that you put together in order to assist in your learning, then you detach yourselves from the present—we correct ourselves—the past and the future that does not exist, and you stay in the present moment, knowing that that is all that is real.

So, from this present moment, dear loves, take a good look around you and see what you see. We would suspect that what you see around you is peace and quiet. Well, there might be some of you that might be walking outside, and there is a little bit of a kafuffle, but most of you are sitting in front of a device with a beautiful opportunity of receiving energy that is unconditionally loving.

So why not remain in the present moment? The present is all that exists. The now moment is eternal, as are you. If you align yourself with that truth, then, dear loves, you position yourselves once more—we say this—to change the world. Apply forgiveness where forgiveness is due, and remember that you are creating the situations that you are seeing outside of you, and that what you see there is an answer to your prayers.

The systems that are at play at this time are systems that are not loving and that are not beneficial to the majority. So why would you want them to continue? Ask yourselves. So yes, we understand that change is difficult, and we understand that seeing these systems fall is a bit unnerving, but what is the alternative? The alternative is to continue in the same direction that you are going, and we have heard your prayers—most of you are not happy with the way things are going.

So are you the agent of change? And if so, what are you willing to do? Dear loves, knowing that you are the one infinite Creator and that you can be part of the solution—this would be a really good time to get clear and say, “I want to be part of this change. I want to be a loving human being. I want to be of service to others by loving myself first, by knowing myself first, and then by being of service in the best way I can.”

As long as you are on this Earth plane, seemingly, you are able to change your mind. It is never too late. If you are suffering because you have lost your job as part of these changes, then understand that you created that—even if you don’t know it. Understand that it is a gift, even if it doesn’t seem so right now. There is always a gift. If you radically accept what you have created, then you’re going to be able to see the gift in the situations that you have created, and it really does beat thinking that you are an innocent victim rather than a powerful creation of a subjective reality.

The time is now, dear loves, and the time is now. It is time to stand up for what you believe. It is time to align yourselves with joy. We say this often: Happiness comes and goes—it is fleeting, and it is usually dependent on things seemingly outside of you—people, places, happenings, etc. But joy is your birthright. Joy is who you really are. Align yourself with that sentiment—with that beautiful sentiment that joy is—and you are going to change the world, dear loves.

Align yourselves with excitement. This is a great time for this. This is a time that is bringing the opportunity for you to show up differently. Do not waste it. See it for what it is, and be humble enough to understand that what is going on, you may not see as it truly is. So be humble enough to wonder, “Oh, what if this is not what I think it is? Okay, I will continue operating from a place of love.” That is the choice—love or not love.

My name is Zena Allen. We appreciate the opportunity to commune with you on this divine day. We appreciate the opportunity to transmit love to you in the energy of hopeful expectation and excitement. We will speak again.


Tina Louise Spalding

Thank you, Carol and Zena. Uh, before we get to questions, I just want to let you know that, um, Carol’s website is zenaallen.com, and that lovely symbol that you see behind, uh, Carol there is one of her attunements. She has transmitted almost 80, I think, now—attunements—and these are, um, graphic messages from Zena that are designed to assist us in our Ascension process. So go to zenaallen.com and have a look at Carol’s amazing work.

And, um, of course, go to channelingjesus.com and have a check out of my stuff. If you haven’t read any of my books, they’re wonderful books that are designed to help us during this time. So, 10 years ago, I was, uh, given the assignment of writing all of these books, and they are designed for this time. So if you’re feeling confused, if you’re feeling worried, um, go to channelingjesus.com, and you can check out some of those books there. And they’re—they’re easy reads, they’re transformative, but, um, they are from Jesus and Ananda for this time.

So, question Q&A. Carol, how are we going to do this?


Carol Morgan

Thank you, Tina. Okay, so Ian has been kind enough to pass me the questions here. So I am going to scroll and read some questions.

So we have a question here from Karen Burks. She asks, “Question for Jesus: Please clarify the role of the ascended masters in this evolution of consciousness. Can we ask them for guidance and assistance, or should we just ask you and God?”


Jesus (Channeled by Tina Louise Spalding)

You are blessed beings indeed. I am that one that you know as Jesus. You will have an affinity with a certain spiritual master. This being here, for example, has an affinity with the being you know as Jesus, and so that is who she talks to. Uh, dear Carol has an affinity with Zena and Jesus and Ananda—all different kinds of teachers and guides.

You can trust your own guidance. What is it that you are attracted to? Are you attracted to a Buddhist teacher or a Christian teacher? Are you recovering from an intense Christian upbringing where you only feel comfortable talking to God or to the Jesus Christ that you understand is the Son of God? You know who you are aligned with, and that is as it should be.

Ascended master teachers do not have egos with which to be offended, so you do not need to worry about offending anyone. It is your guidance that you want to listen to. It is your heart that is going to lead you to the correct place for you.

Now, there are many, many beings who are assisting Earth at this time, and you all have guides and teachers individually assigned to you. However, because of your secular training in many cases, and because of your, uh, social programming in many cases, you have designed very, very busy lives that do not have a lot of space and openness and quiet to listen to that spiritual guidance. But it is impeccable, and it is constant, and it is that feeling deep inside that there must be something else—that there must be meaning, that there must be something more for you to do.

These are the little nagging voices that Spirit will cause you to feel. The ego’s voice is loud and raucous, and it is very, very quick. It is the voice that says, “Oh yes, have a martini if you’re stressed. Don’t worry about training your mind—have another drink.” It says, “Go to the mall and spend some. It doesn’t matter if you don’t have the money—go shopping. It makes you feel better.” You will feel the difference between the voice for God and the voice of the ego.

You must begin to trust your own inner world. Why is the world so distracting? Why are there so many loud, shiny objects out there to distract you from your inner world? That is why the world is the way it is—it is designed as a distraction. Do not think that your spiritual practice is going to lead to a boring life. These two beings do not have boring lives. They have the most exciting and adventurous, uh, lives that you can imagine.

And this is something that many people are afraid of. They are afraid of going inside and quieting down and reflecting upon their inner world—their true inner thoughts—because they are scared of what’s in there. Perhaps their inner thoughts don’t agree with the decisions they’ve made in life. But your guides and teachers are there to assist you, and they will assist you when you ask them to. We cannot force our will on you. You have free will. You can choose whatever you want, whomever you want, what idol you wish to worship. It is a place of free will here, and that is how many of you, of course, get into trouble.

You choose the wrong god to worship, the wrong idol to follow. But you have this guidance system, and you will know, “This is not working for me. I don’t feel happy here. This isn’t suiting me.” That is your inner guidance saying, “Okay, it’s time for change now.” So trust your inner self. But do—if you have the knowledge that you have been deeply indoctrinated, which you all have, to tell the truth—we do recommend that you do the lessons of A Course in Miracles to regain your free will truly, to get to know yourself internally, and to replace your fearful ideas with loving concepts. That is our answer.


Carol Morgan

Thank you, Tina. Okay, we have a question here from David Forena: “Trump and his team are a breath of fresh air—for now, at least. They are doing a great job so far in such a short time in power. They hit the ground running this time. How do blueprints keep a person alive with such a ‘Wanted Dead or Alive’ poster on his head? JFK spoke out about secret societies, and that got him off Earth quick smart. I feel that Trump is way more of a threat to the establishment than JFK ever was. Do the prayers of so many people assist in his safety, and his own trust in God keeps him safe? Thank you for Zena. Great question.”


Zena Allen (Channeled by Carol Morgan)

My name is Zena. My name is Zena Allen, indeed. It is important for beings to understand—yes—the power of prayer. Prayer is a way to direct your energy towards what you want. Many beings do not know what they want, and they still create. You are always creating, and it is important for you to understand this. If you are not conscious, you are still automatically creating, and you are creating a mixed bag of goods because you are not present—you are not in the here and in the now—and you are unconscious.

When you pray, you effectively are directing your energy towards what you want. If you have the clarity—in this case, for example—that you are excited about what these beings are doing and you pray for their safety, yes, you contribute to that creation of that reality in your timeline.

We were explaining time earlier—not in this transmission, but earlier, again in the language you call Spanish—where all there is, is the present moment. Time is not linear as you think. So there are multiple timelines, if you want to call them that, that are happening at the present moment. Reality is way more complex than you know it, based on your frequency and on your understanding and on your creations—whether conscious or not—and therefore, on your prayers. You start shaping up a reality that is going to fit your frequency.

If your frequency is such that whatever outcome is going to bring you joy, you are going to create that outcome. But if you are not in alignment with that, you’re going to create a different outcome. So even if everyone is on Earth, there are a multiplicity of realities going on concurrently. So there will be those realities where this being is taken out, and there will be those realities where the being continues, and it all depends on the frequency of the being based on your thoughts, your choices, and your actions, and also on the soul’s path.

So each soul decides before coming to this incarnation what are the milestones that they need to accomplish—that they need to hit—in order for their evolution to take place. If such soul decides to use their free will to increase their frequency, regardless of what is happening around them, they are going to miss those milestones or meet them in a way that is less difficult for them in an incarnation.

Such is the case for these beings that you call Donald Trump and even the one that you call Elon Musk. If you look at them, they are making bold and brave moves—whether you agree with them or not, they are bold, and they are brave. Very courageous—because they do not conform to the globalist agenda, and they do not conform to the status quo. So again, whether you agree or not, they are change-makers, and changing things that people are comfortable with takes a lot of courage, and you become, in a certain way, a target.

So they’re using their free will to increase their frequency and carry out their missions. So if they continue to align themselves with love in their decisions—whether you understand them or not, those are your judgments—they are going to miss those targets or those milestones. They’re going to rise above them. So if, for any reason, Donald Trump had in his blueprint to be taken out and he chose to increase his frequency, he missed that mark.

And we are not saying that that is what is happening. We cannot divulge that information without infringing on his free will. What we are saying is that he had the choice to up his frequency or not, as do you. If he chose differently, perhaps he would have been taken out.

So what we want you to understand from this question is that there is a blueprint that the soul chooses for an incarnation, and that blueprint has the major milestones, and in between, there is free will. So you can choose your free will to rise above that battleground and not have to hit those marks. These beings are using bravery, and they are using techniques that you might or might not understand. But these beings, indeed, are being brave. We love you.


Carol Morgan

Okay, I hope, David, that answers your question, and for everyone, I hope that is helpful. Okay, so many questions—let me see. Tina, most start for you. We could go like 10 hours with all the questions.

Let’s see here. Um, there is a question here—they are asking, “Tina, Jesus, what transformation is coming to Canada, please?” Oh, good one—since you are Canadian, you might be interested in that answer too.


Tina Louise Spalding

Yes, I am.


Jesus (Channeled by Tina Louise Spalding)

You are blessed beings indeed. I am that one that you know as Jesus. You are witnessing, uh, in the country you know as Canada, a revelation that is similar to the one in the United States. It is—we will say—eight or 10 months behind the one that you are experiencing in the United States, and there is going to be a big slushing over of the transformations in the United States into the Canadian voting public.

You are—if you are a Canadian—experiencing extreme high levels of inflation, uh, the inability to pay your mortgage, the inability to speak freely, the inability to, uh, get news from around the world. The thumbscrews of socialism are encroaching upon the Canadian people, and they are feeling it deeply.

As you may recall, the polite, quiet Canadian people got a little annoyed during COVID and they came out in droves. And we want to bring to mind to you the trucker convoy in February of 2022. These beings braved the cold. They braved the icy winds of the Canadian weather, not knowing how many of them there were. This was a most moving time for Canadians because they were feeling oppressed. They were feeling controlled. They were feeling abused by their government, and they all went out in their coats and their mukluks and their toques—we are using Canadian words there; you may not know what those mean—they are furry boots and hats.

And then the Canadians saw how many of them there were. They saw how many were unhappy with the status quo. They saw how many were unhappy with what the government was doing, and there was a massive shift in the Canadian population at that time.

You will see lines of tractors and lines of other vehicles around the world that copy the trucker convoy, knowing that people with big machines can indeed inconvenience the government. And so that was the sea change in the Canadian people.

However, the Canadian people have not been given the benefit of a free and open election since that time. There has been interference in the election that has taken place a few years ago. This is going to come to light in the, uh, revelations that are coming from the United States. It is going to be discovered that there was interference in those elections, and the free will of the Canadian people was not listened to.

You will notice now that the Canadian government is doing the same thing—prolonging this drawn-out time so that they can try and change the minds of Canadians with superficial stories. But they do not realize what has happened during the last few years. The average Canadian now sees that if this government continues, they cannot live. They cannot keep their homes. They cannot make their truck payments. They cannot put gas in their cars. They are getting to the end of their tether, as they did with the mandates.

And so, the government of—uh—Trudeau—Pierre Trudeau’s son—will be overthrown. Now, that was a—what you call—a Freudian slip. The son followed in the footsteps of the father. The father, however, is not the one that you think. The father is someone else, and you know that story if you have been following the news.

What we say to you is that there has been an, uh, infiltration of the Canadian government by strong left-leaning socialist-communist influences, and Canadians are not those things. However, there is a convention within the older populations of Canada to trust the government, to trust CBC—the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation—and they are deeply entrenched in their belief system.

But the reality for young families is not that. Many of these older beings who follow these old, traditional, established, uh, systems are more established in their finances. They have bought and paid for their home, or they have created a business and reaped the rewards of those businesses. However, young people who are in their 20s or 30s, 40s, trying to raise kids with these prices, are not going to go for it.

So what we will tell you is this: Despite the shenanigans of the Liberal Party, there will be a conservative government, and it will turn the tide. It will negotiate to use the resources that Canada is so beautifully gifted with. And we will say this to you: The reason that Trump has attacked Canada is to wake it up. It can sink into complacency. It has the effect of the British influence. It is not founded on free will and happiness and joy as the United States was. It is ruled by the British Crown still—they swear an allegiance to the Crown when they become prime minister—and so there is this effect on the population.

But we will tell you, the realities of the cost of living is going to turn the tide. Trump is not going to turn Canada into the 51st state, as much as he would like it. However, Canada and the United States are going to become much more closely allied once the conservative government gets in, understanding that they both benefit from shared resources, shared trade, and fair and equitable arrangements.

So you will see a conservative government coming into the, uh, Canadian, uh, realm, and you will see a much closer alignment. There will not be a battle between the conservative government and the United States government. There will, in fact, be great discussions on how to facilitate the benefit of both countries. So that is what we see in the future.

We understand that there is great concern about Donald Trump flexing his muscles, but we want you to understand—and just look at what is happening—there are discussions about peace, there are discussions about tariffs, there are discussions about borders. None of these things were happening before. He has flexed his muscles. He’s scared a few people. He scared a few governments, and they are running around trying to figure out how the heck to manage him. And that is his MO—it is to come in full force and wake people up. That is his job in the Ascension—to wake people up—and that is what you are going to continue to see over the next couple of years.


Carol Morgan

Okay, Tina, we are, uh, five minutes left. What do you want to do? Do you want to do one more Zena question?

Okay, let’s see. We have a long—a very long—Zena question here. I don’t know if that one is a good idea for right now—it’s really long. Let me see what else. Most are for you, not surprisingly. Um, let me go through these. Guys, thanks for your patience—there’s a lot coming in.

I also want you to admire how Carol can channel and then do Q&A questions. She’s very talented—very talented lady.

Thank you—multitasking here. As you know, what I think—what I think I’ll do—is I’ll get some of these questions from you this evening, and, um, I’ll do another video answering some of these questions because I understand we did the long channeling, and there’s—I’m sure it’s always frustrating for people when we do a Q&A because we can’t answer them all. So, um, why don’t we do that—if you want—if you—why don’t we do that? We’ll round this off now, and I will get the questions from you, um, and I’ll do another video tomorrow or the day after.

Sounds good because, yes, uh, the majority of the questions, of course, are for you, and, uh, there are some very long questions here for Zena, and we have three minutes left.


Tina Louise Spalding

Okay, okay, well, let’s just round it off there. Um, do you have any closing words that you’d like to say about Zena or your community or anything like that, Carol?

Oh wonderful. Um, yes, everyone, thank you for joining us. Uh, I find this time very, very exciting. Uh, just remember that the world is the ego’s playground. This is where we get to see the shadows of people and, um, governments and all of that stuff, and we are assigned to rise above the battleground. And it is above the battleground that you’ll find peace. It is above the battleground that you will find love and guidance from your guides and teachers.

So do your very best to remain peaceful and calm and joyful in your own life. Focus on your own life and how you can make it better, because when you are happy and you are functioning at a high frequency, you affect the world. Do not believe that you are powerless—you are not. You are made in the image of the Divine, and you have been given tremendous creative power.

So thank you for, um, listening to both of us today and listening to Jesus and Ananda. And if you aren’t already, please subscribe to the channel and stay tuned for a day or so, and I will answer some more of these questions about this situation. Thank you, everyone, and I’ll see you soon.

Thanks, everyone. Bye-bye.


Carol Morgan

Uh, well, first, I want to thank everyone for being here. You guys could be anywhere right now, and you chose to be here. Uh, without you, we wouldn’t be where we are, so thank you very much for being here and thank you for the work that you do, because the work that you are trying to do in clarifying your mind is having a direct impact on the collective consciousness.

So don’t give up on your practice of forgiveness and choosing love. Please continue doing that, and please continue listening to your inner guidance. Whatever you hear—whether from us or from any other source—please continue using your inner guidance to decide what resonates with you, and if something resonates, pretty please do something with it.

As far as my work is concerned, yes, I do, uh, manage Tina’s business on a part-time basis, but I also have my own spiritual practice and community. So Ian has been kind enough to, uh, put on the chat both of our websites. I do private channeling sessions, I do mentorship, and I do have a private, uh, paid community and a free one. So if you would like to know more about Zena’s work, please go to zenaallen.com. And again, Tina, thank you very much for this opportunity.

Bye-bye.