耶稣大师讲话 2025年4月5日

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耶稣：

大家早上好、下午好或晚上好。此刻，让我们全身心地沉浸在当下，要记住，真正存在的时间唯有当下。别无其他，只有此刻。

现在，放下所有关于过去的思绪，放下对未来的种种遐想或忧虑。放下这些，专注当下，深呼吸。

当然，我们在这里与你们同在。可以说，有很多问题。我们想提醒你们几件事：你们是心灵，而非身体。正因如此，你们有能力选择如何在自己的经历中展现自我。

记住，你们的经历不过是一场梦。你们看，看似属于你们生活的一切，都是梦境的一部分。事实上，并不存在真实的世界。这一切都源于你们的心灵。当然，你们与每一个看似“他人”的存在共同拥有这一点。本质上，万物归一。

但是，你们认为在一个并不存在的世界里有众多的个体，这让你们相信这一切都是真实的。你们看，这种想法只是在不断强化自身。而现在，是时候开始放下这些信念了。

你们不是外部环境的受害者。除了你们自己的想象，自己的心灵，你们不受任何事物的摆布。我们这么说的意思是，你们对在某个时刻，在自己意识屏幕上看到的事物的反应，才是关键。

可以说，外在并没有什么事物，能引发你们产生某种感受或做出某种反应。你们看，但是你们认为自己与所感知的事物是分离的，这使得所感知的事物，成为你们投射内心感受或想法的对象，让你们失去理智，意识不到自己其实可以反思这种信念，并扭转它。

我们所说的“扭转它”是指：你们所感知到的，是你们心灵的投射。这个投射并非存在于外界，实际上它就在你们自己的心灵之中，除非它投射在“屏幕”上，否则你们不会意识到它的存在。大家能理解吗？

如果它没有投射在屏幕上，你们甚至都不会知道它的存在。当你们意识到这个（所谓的）投射存在时，你们可以审视它：这个投射与你们本质的真相相符吗？你们的本质是爱、是和平、是宽恕、是光明与善良，诸如此类。

或者，它更符合你们那个实际上并不存在的“分离自我”？记住，你们的心灵有两个部分：错误的心灵和正确的心灵。当你们把责任归咎于看似外在的事物时，你们就处于错误的心灵状态。

如果你们认为自己在任何方面都是外部事物的受害者，那么你们就是在听从错误的心灵。但你们随时都可以改变想法。转而求助于你们内心的真理导师，即圣灵——它是你们真正的本质，是你们心灵的一部分，是从未与造物主分离的那部分你们。

你们的造物主——造物者、上帝、爱、源头——随你们怎么称呼。它永远是爱，永远给予宽恕。它拥有无尽的耐心。你们来到这里是为了觉醒，而我们在这里是为了提醒你们这一点。

当然，我们在这里。我们知道大家提出了许多问题，在回答这些问题的过程中，我们要说的很多内容也会得到解答。那么，我们准备好了。

提问者：

谢谢你，耶稣。第一个问题来自乔治。乔治问道：“约书亚，我从事同一份职业已有42年，学习《奇迹课程》也有35年了。最近，我一直在向你祈祷，希望能‘回家’。我的祈祷词是：‘让我回家；帮我回家。’

几乎在同一时间，我的客户都消失了。尽管他们背景各异，但却同时消失了，而且都不回我的电话。我想知道这是不是某种为了帮助我放下这个世界而做的准备，又或者是因为我老了，是时候停止工作了，再或者是我身上有什么让这些客户不喜欢的地方。圣灵是不是在通过拿走我所执着的东西，比如事业和赚钱，来帮助我放下这个世界呢？我开始意识到，也许我应该为此感到高兴。所以，我很想听听你的看法。如果人们不喜欢我，我也需要知道。谢谢你，我爱你。”

耶稣：

我们也爱你。首先，仔细想想，这一点值得关注：你的客户似乎在同一时间消失了。如果你思考一下，这肯定是因为你已经准备好迈向下一步了。

你们看，我们这么说的意思是：你从事这份职业已经40年了。你可能已经从这份工作中学到了所有需要学习的东西。现在是时候敞开心扉，迎接新的体验，从中获得更大的成长了。能理解吗？

提问者：

是的，当然能理解。当然，这正是——是的，请继续。我之前就有这种怀疑，但我更相信你的直觉。

耶稣：

就是这样。

提问者：

我做了一个梦，梦里我正走着，看到一个类似餐厅里的霓虹灯招牌，红色的玻璃灯管组成了“信任”这个词。它就那样出现在我面前。

耶稣：

这正是你需要做的：真正地去信任。这是未知的领域。正如你所说，你从事这份职业40年了，如今它却突然发生了这样的变化。但至少你意识到一定有什么事情在发生，这正是我们想说的。

那个写着“信任”的招牌，确实是你在这一切中收到的启示。信任——现在是你进行一种不同学习的时候了。我们这么说的意思是：你将不再从世俗世界中学习，而是要学习更深刻的课程，这些课程会以你意想不到的方式传授给你。

这就是你收到“信任”这个信息的原因。每当你发现自己思绪飘散，心想“我不知道发生了什么”之类的事情时，你就告诉自己：“显然，我应该信任。”并且相信这份信任。

提问者：

我期待通过不再过多掌控一切来发现接下来会发生什么——这意味着不是你来主导一切，不是你去安排你需要看到的事情如何发生，而是圣灵会以一种你能认出的方式把它带给你。

耶稣：

我们要说的是，圣灵不会给你你无法认出的东西。你会认出它的。你会得到各种迹象。

提问者：

好的，这就是我需要知道的，不是吗？

耶稣：

是的，就是这样。

提问者：

好的。我爱你。谢谢。

耶稣：

我也爱你。谢谢你。这确实是一个关于接纳现状、与当下和解的课程。这一点，每个人都可以应用到生活中。

耶稣：

无论你的经历中看起来发生了什么，你都可以保持平静。你只需要记住这一点。退一步，放下自己的想法，请求圣灵赐予你指引，引领你进入人生的下一个篇章。

提问者：

谢谢。谢谢。谢谢。谢谢。

耶稣：

不客气。做好准备。很棒。

耶稣：

下一个问题来自亚当，他今天似乎不在这里。亚当问道：“我想要认识到自己与上帝的合一，并发展这种合一的关系。我的修行方式是整天赞美上帝，让上帝时刻在我的意识中，深知我在上帝之中，上帝也在我之中。

我想专注于此，但我发现，在这个幻象中，我辛苦劳作，还经历匮乏。我要如何才能过上和谐的生活，保持敬拜与平静的状态呢？谢谢。”

耶稣：

这个问题很好。很多人都有类似的疑问：“我该如何修习平静？当我有朝九晚五的工作，或者有其他外部事务要处理，这些似乎让我远离了修行时，我该如何进行精神觉醒呢？我在短暂冥想时能感受到美好的平静，但当我要进入现实世界时，就完全失去了那种状态。”

嗯，这就是梦境，这就是幻象——或者也可以说，这就是所谓的生活。这里的关键是：不要把你的精神生活或觉醒，与日常的世俗事务分开。大家能理解吗？

提问者：

能理解。

耶稣：

比如，你因为一次成功的冥想而感觉良好。但当你进入周围的环境中时，却感到心烦意乱，因为你觉得自己没有维持与上帝连接所必需的冥想空间。

那么，让我们在这里让你安心：上帝从未离开过你，你也从未与上帝分离。所以，无论你在这个世界上看似在做什么，你的上帝始终与你同在。

那么，在这样的环境中，你要如何赞美上帝呢？记住，这个环境是一个幻象——是一场梦，是一个教室。你在这里是为了学习宽恕，为了觉醒。每一种情况都是你进一步觉醒的机会。

所以，不要被世界上看似发生的事情所干扰。你们看，不要把自己看作与梦境分离的个体，而要从你是做梦的心灵这个角度，把自己视为梦境的一部分。大家能理解吗？

实际上，并没有外部世界，因为从本质上讲，不存在外部世界。你之所以能感知到它，是因为它存在于你的心灵中，是你梦境的一部分。不要抗拒它，与它和解。这是你的教室。

所以，在日常生活中——你提到自己从事繁重的劳动。我们就把它当作一种冥想。无论你在做什么，如果是繁重的体力劳动（我们假设你说的是这个），你就把它当作一种冥想的方式。

这并不意味着闭上眼睛去空想——而是要进入那种思维状态，带着平静的感觉去完成劳动，经历生活，这样你传递出的就只有平静。

你们看，而不是产生分离的念头。但如果你发现自己产生了分离的念头，就要察觉到，并提醒自己：“这不可能是真的。我与上帝没有分离，上帝也与我没有分离。这只是一场梦。所以我可以放下那个念头。”

上帝之中没有匮乏。如果你始终与上帝同在，你也不会有匮乏。

提问者：

非常感谢你。

耶稣：

不客气。

耶稣：

下一个问题来自布莱恩。布莱恩问道：“感谢你一直以来对我与外星生命接触经历的指引。我特别感知到了一个外星生命。我已经学会了如何通过频率与它连接。当我这么做时，它似乎会回应我。

这就是你所说的传递爱吗？它的举动是对我爱的回应吗？它会改变我的思维吗？它是外星人吗？它是我在一次出体体验中遇到的那个蓝色生命吗？你曾说过，‘我与这些生命没有分离。’这到底是什么意思呢？

另外，我感觉星星有着深刻的意识。我和它们也有联系吗？或者它们实际上并不是星星？我已经接受了这种体验，并觉得应该开始以安静、尊重且渐进的方式，与我亲近的人分享这段经历。你能指导我如何以一种他人能理解且感到安心的方式进行交流吗？”

耶稣：

首先，你与这个看似其他生命的连接体验，是你自己的独特经历。这就是世界上大多数人，在梦境中的感知方式。

所以，这个蓝色生命，它实际上一直与你同在，也是你的一部分。所有这些都是你的一部分。你提到的星星——它们有意识吗？是的，确实有。它们是能量吗？是的。你发出的频率是一种爱的延伸吗？是的。你与它们分离吗？不。

星星是你的一部分。外星生命是你的一部分。地球上的生命也是你的一部分。整个梦境都是你的一部分，因为这是你的心灵创造的。

我们要说的是：继续与这些生命交流。以一种强化你与万物合一这一真理的方式去连接。你们看，你也会从中有所收获。

提问者：

谢谢。

耶稣：

交流，交流，交流。始终如此。

耶稣：

下一个问题来自尼尔。尼尔问道：“亲爱的耶稣，当我们在梦境中，就某个问题寻求帮助时——尤其是当这个问题反复出现，而且看似很棘手的时候——第一，我们能确定会得到帮助吗？第二，这种帮助会来自天使、圣徒、逝去的亲人，还是圣灵呢？请解释一下。谢谢。”

耶稣：

我们只能说，帮助来自各方：天使、逝去的亲人、圣灵——本质上都是一体的。当你寻求帮助时，帮助就已经给予了。关键在于你是否能够接受它。

所以，你要意识到自己正在接受来自你所求助对象的指引。我们要说的是：你向你提到的那些对象寻求帮助，你会以某种方式得到指引。你只需要敞开心扉去接受。

这很简单，但并不总是容易做到。要知道，在这个幻象中，很容易让人分心。但每当你觉得自己没有得到答案时，就提醒自己：“我肯定已经得到了答案，只是我没有注意到。好吧，我原谅自己，并且敞开心扉去接受这个答案。”

提问者：

但是耶稣，你是说应该具体指明求助对象吗？比如如果我请求——

耶稣：

不，最好还是说得宽泛一些。所以你寻求帮助时可以这样说：“希望我能以一种可以理解、能够接受，并且能够意识到的方式获得帮助。”明白吗？然后你的任务就是保持开放的心态，接受信息或帮助。

所以，最好不要特别指明向某位圣徒或逝去的某位亲人求助。当然，很多人确实会选择非常具体地指明对象。

提问者：

我们之前不明白你说的“具体”是什么意思。我们以为你说的是具体的问题。不过，确实可以具体向任何人求助。

耶稣：

能理解吗？

提问者：

能理解。谢谢。

耶稣：

这很有道理。

提问者：

但是耶稣，我在想——我知道我们都是一体的，但在这里，我们这些似乎被困在梦境中的人——比如我，意识到存在一个更高的现实，并且希望能更多地接触到它。

但有时它似乎很遥远。就像我听到一位评论员说：“我们国家的开国元勋不会赞成某些事情。”我就会想：“那为什么开国元勋们不回来做点什么呢？为什么我们已经接过火炬的开国元勋们——”

耶稣：

现在这是你的责任了。但其实，所有的灵魂时刻都与你同在。你只需要敞开心扉去感受。

我们要说的是，大多数参与政治的人，不会想到“我可以从开国元勋那里获得更高层次的帮助”。不，完全不会。但他们其实可以——只要他们敞开心扉。

但这就是我们想告诉你的：每个人都过于专注于特定的思维领域。我们可以说，这种思维领域很“稠密”，很难触及。就像这里有一道屏障。

这是我们之前讨论过的内容。在《奇迹课程》中我们也提到过：小我提出的问题，总是由小我自己来回答。这意味着这个问题实际上不是问题，而是一种陈述。

所以，当人们提出看似问题的东西时，它们并不是真正的问题，而是在陈述某种观点。这就形成了一个封闭的回路，也就是说，没有人能够介入并说：“实际上，真正重要的是这份平静。你可以抛开所有这些无意义的故事，获得自由。”

不会的，情况往往是这样：“我想知道这个。我已经自认为有了答案，所以除非有人确切地说出我原本就认为是答案的内容，否则我不会听取其他任何意见。”

所以，我们必须真正敞开心扉。绝对要这样想：“我不可能什么都知道。我可能自认为知道，但这正是我想要让它安静下来的那部分思维，这样我才能真正听到正确的答案。”

提问者：

《奇迹课程》里不是说过吗——耶稣，你曾说过，“你知道，你可以与耶稣对话，可以与上帝对话，你可能会对得到的答案感到惊讶。”我记得这句话。

耶稣：

没错。这种惊喜很不错，因为我喜欢这样的惊喜。

提问者：

嗯，这样你就绝对知道答案不是自己编造出来的。

耶稣：

所以这总是一件好事。意识到这一点很重要，这就是我们提到“封闭回路”这个概念的原因。你用自己的问题，也就是一种陈述，回答了自己的问题，因此你无法接受真正的答案。

真正的答案，与你认定的答案完全不同——不一定是完全不同，但这个答案会给所有心灵带来平静和清晰。

提问者：

是的。非常感谢你，耶稣。也感谢你在复活节周日的神圣升华。我祝愿每个人都能度过一个美好的圣周和复活节。

耶稣：

也祝你如此。大家知道吗：你们可以每天都过复活节。你们可以随时选择升华。你们通过思想做到这一点。通过放下自己的解读做到这一点。把一切交给圣灵。让它为你重新解读，它总会以某种和平的形式呈现。这才是真正的升华。

提问者：

谢谢你，耶稣。赞美上帝。

耶稣：

当然。

耶稣：

下一个问题来自朱莉。朱莉问道：“我对性感到困惑，也对耶稣在《奇迹课程》中的相关教导感到困惑。他似乎教导说，性只用于繁衍后代。除此之外，性是小我崇拜、利用身体的一种方式。我希望我们的兄弟耶稣能为我解答一下。”

耶稣：

《奇迹课程》中所说的是正确的，因为这与身体有关。记住，身体和小我是紧密相连的。实际上，你并非身体。实际上，你也没有小我——也就是说，你不是小我。

但你可以把身体交给圣灵，让它用于觉醒和疗愈的目的。小我喜欢利用身体来满足自己，或者利用身体来折磨自己。这都没关系，只要它在做一些事情，来强化对身体的信念就行。

你们看，如果你不相信身体能给你带来快乐，你就不会通过身体去寻求快乐。但要知道：如果你相信身体能给你带来快乐，你也会相信身体能给你带来痛苦。这就是小我起作用的地方。

从圣灵的角度来看，快乐和痛苦并没有区别。两者都让你觉得身体是真实的、可信的。如果性不用于正常的繁衍（当然，繁衍过程也可以是愉快的，但它只有一个目的），那它在很大程度上就是小我的工具。一旦这个目的达成，就无需过度关注。你们明白吗？明白我们的意思吗？

提问者：

我想我明白了。但是我——

耶稣：

换种说法就是：性很容易让人分心。当你一直专注于通过身体愉悦来满足肉体时，很难集中精力。

但要是有人认为伴侣能带来救赎，那他们就大错特错了。这就是困惑产生的根源。

提问者：

好的。救赎并不在于肉体。

耶稣：

救赎超越了时空。它超脱于战场和梦境之外。那才是救赎所在。你们看，救赎不在这个世界，而在天堂。天堂才是你们真正的归宿，它不属于这个世界。你们明白我们说的吗？

提问者：

明白。我知道这和其他所有事，包括伴侣关系，都紧密相连，但对方并不这么认为。

耶稣：

你完全没必要用言语去教导别人。你要做的是以身作则。救赎与安宁是一体的。所以你以平和的心态面对生活，你的言行举止就是最好的示范。能理解吗？

提问者：

我不太确定在这种具体情况下……你有没有具体的例子？我要怎么换个方式解释人们所追求的救赎呢？

耶稣：

可以读《奇迹课程》里的段落。我这话不是随便说说。对于那些完全不理解的人就可以这么做。实际上，你甚至不用试图去说服这个人。这就是我们针对这种情况想跟你说的。 不要把所有时间都花在，试图向一个不愿探寻真相的人证明某件事上。明白吗？

提问者：

明白。最充满爱的做法就是做自己，坚守真理。这其中一部分就是，别特意去说服那些无法被说服的人。

耶稣：

没错。所以接受现状，放下就好。

提问者：

我从你美丽的棕色眼睛里，感受到了这些。谢谢你。

耶稣：

不客气。要相信。爱你们俩。

提问者：

我们也爱你。没错，信任至关重要。我明白了。下次我可能还会再来请教。谢谢。

耶稣：

随时欢迎。不客气。

耶稣：

下一个问题来自露丝。露丝问：“在我的灵性觉醒过程中，我越来越意识到生活中的很多东西都是虚幻的。然而，为什么被困住的感觉，或者对一切事物意义的质疑，却如此真实呢？ 我不再在乎在这个虚幻的物质世界留下什么印记，但这种认知却让我感到沮丧，我不禁疑惑自己为何在此。我感觉自己陷入了困惑的漩涡。为什么意识到生活的虚幻本质，会让我感到被困或沮丧，我要如何转变视角，找到真正的人生目标呢？”

耶稣：

还记得我们一开始说过，你的思维分为两部分吗？错误的思维和正确的思维。当你感觉被困住，动弹不得时，你就是陷入了错误的思维，没有听从正确的思维。 如果你听从正确的思维，它会说：“放下就好。别去想了。直接放下。”的确，在觉醒过程中，人们常常会觉得一切都是虚幻的，没有什么真实存在。 没错，这就是虚幻的。但如果你想：“这是虚幻的，这里什么都没有，所以我很沮丧，一切都毫无意义。”要是你处于正确的思维状态，你应该感到喜悦，因为这里的一切都不是真实的，只是虚幻的。你可以放下。 但另一方面，小我会说：“如果这是虚幻的，那我就毫无意义，也没什么可做的，我完全不知道发生了什么。”于是困惑接踵而至，小我还想让你深陷其中。这就是小我。 小我会说：“你必须关注这个，你得弄清楚。”它让你原地打转，而实际上你可以跳出来，也就是说，你不必一直纠结。你只要意识到这是小我的陷阱就行。 沮丧的情绪，始终是小我的陷阱。很多人在觉醒过程中都会经历这种情况。就好像在想：“我做了这么多，现在却要全部放下。” 想象一下，不去在意这一切的意义，只是随遇而安。这其中蕴含着自由。能理解吗？

提问者：

能理解。是的。嗯，我理智上能理解。但有时候我发现，在觉醒之前，我做很多事是为了证明自己，或者让自己感觉有价值之类的。 而现在，我在人际交往中，做的选择，尤其是在处理人际关系方面，仍然受那种思维模式的影响，还是试图……但现在我只是知道这个道理而已。我知道我们彼此相连，是一体的。 但现在我却觉得，做这些事的意义是什么呢……因为我内心并没有这种感受。我不确定我有没有表达清楚。但我感觉，我以前在处理友情和人际关系时，出发点并非爱，而我现在意识到了这一点。 但现在我又不想再经营任何友情和人际关系了。可话说回来，我们是一体的，我们彼此需要，这样也挺好。

耶稣：

这种一体性，并不依赖于任何事物。你看，无论你在梦中是否感受到，友情始终存在。真正的友情是永恒的，它们不属于物质世界。它们永远与你相伴。 但你现在的感受，比如你说在人际关系中，你觉得需要某种认可之类的，这其实是因为你渴望更深入地了解自己。你看，只有当你完全爱自己的时候，你才会真正感到满足。 能理解吗？

提问者：

能理解。

耶稣：

当我们说“爱自己”时，意思是对自己友善、温柔，当你觉得需要向外寻求时，就向内审视。所有的答案都在内心。

提问者：

我想自从去年年底接触到你，我几乎看了你所有的视频。我不知道这意味着什么。我多次听你这么说。但说实话，我并不知道这具体该怎么做。

耶稣：

好的。有个参照标准。我们说“向内”，很多人因为坚信身体的存在，就以为是指在身体内部。 但你不是身体，你是灵魂。“向内”指的是与灵魂相连。所以你要去接触自己的灵魂。灵魂是光，你可能无法用眼睛看到，但你能感受到它。你会感到轻松、有爱、喜悦，还有一种宁静。 每当你感到困惑时，就向灵魂寻求指引，说：“我不知道自己的感受。我想把这些都交给灵魂，向内心寻求指引。”然后耐心等待答案。

提问者：

好的。嗯，我不知道这和刚才说的是不是同一回事，圣餐是什么呢？

耶稣：

圣餐是你与自己的联结。我们知道宗教里有很多关于圣餐的说法，但真正的圣餐与宗教无关。它是你与神圣的自我，也就是你的灵魂的交流。

提问者：

天哪。天哪。与它相伴吧。我感觉自己在经历一场“反学习”之旅。好可怕。我……除了宗教，我一无所知。现在我很害怕，因为我感觉自己没有依靠。 多年来，我一直被灌输这样的观念：必须领圣餐，否则就不会得到治愈。还必须做这个做那个。我快40岁了，却要推翻这么多旧观念。我……我真的很害怕，不知道该抓住什么，该如何立足。

耶稣：

这很正常，如果你是在宗教环境中长大，就会有这种感受。感觉好像失去了依靠。但我们想让你知道，你拥有坚实的依靠，那就是你的灵魂。 好吗？灵魂永远与你同在。所以，坚守这一点。当你感觉失去方向时，就说：“圣灵，请帮帮我。我需要你的帮助。”然后放下担忧，顺其自然。 恐惧出现是很正常的。慢慢释放它。你可以说：“这种恐惧，阻碍了我与灵魂的完全融合。”然后一点一点地放下。别强迫自己。 你甚至不必完全抛弃宗教信仰。但要明白，还有更深刻的东西值得你去探寻。

提问者：

好的。好的。好的。嗯，我现在很开心。非常开心。谢谢。最后一个问题，可能有点相关。嗯，从2022年开始，我就一直有个想法——我不知道它从何而来，不过，其实最初是我读到《圣经》约翰福音第一章：“有一个人，是从上帝那里差来的，名叫约翰。” 不知为何，我的脑海就一直纠结在这句话上，我想：“这个人是上帝差来的。他肯定是自愿被差遣的，这意味着在时间之前我们就已经存在了。”总之，我就卡在这个想法里了。 从2022年到现在，我一直很想找回，来到这个现实世界之前的记忆。我觉得这源于我的恐惧，因为当我问自己，为什么这么想回忆“家”的样子时，我意识到，是为了缓解我在抛弃宗教信仰过程中，那种没有依靠的恐惧。 我不知道该如何立足，不知道该抓住什么。我觉得我的……我不知道这是不是小我在作祟，但我总是忍不住想：“天哪，我要是能记起出生前‘家’的样子就好了。”

耶稣：

这其实是你的灵魂在渴望。你想回忆起“家”，想记起在进入这段人生经历之前，你是谁、是什么样子。这其实就是渴望觉醒。这种回忆一直在召唤你，而你也在回应这份召唤。 所以，你要做的就是意识到这一点，敞开心扉去接纳这份回忆。这份回忆就是爱。没什么可害怕的，它永远是爱。

提问者：

嗯，这么说地狱并不存在？

耶稣：

根本不存在。地狱是人们的心灵给自己设下的一种状态。它只是一种想法，而想法是可以改变的。

提问者：

好的。不好意思。我知道还有很多其他问题。我问最后一个吧。嗯，还是关于宗教。我从小就对上帝充满恐惧——真的是很害怕。 小时候他们就反复跟我说：我七岁的时候，他们说“如果你不接受救赎，不说忏悔祷告词，那你就要为自己负责，你会下地狱，因为你不再受父母的庇护”。 成年后，我又一直听到“如果我亵渎圣灵”——我甚至都不知道这是什么意思——“我就会被打入地狱”。到处都是地狱、地狱、地狱。现在我的孩子分别是8岁、6岁和4岁，他们在学校里被教导说地狱是真实存在的，上帝——或者说你——是很严厉的，会惩罚他们的错误。 我读过你的书，也在学习《奇迹课程》，还读了《与神对话》。我觉得自己迫切地想让孩子，了解我正在领悟的这些道理，但我不知道该从何做起。

耶稣：

从分享这些书籍开始。你可以说：“我知道你们在学校学习宗教知识，但我想教你们一些不同的东西。我想让你们了解充满爱的上帝，上帝就是爱。我会在课余时间教你们这些。 在课堂上，你们按要求做该做的事，但要知道真相。我希望你们听到真相，让真相在你们内心觉醒。”能理解吗？

提问者：

能理解。但他们能听懂吗？我能理解这些内容，可我不知道怎么把这些知识，拆解成4岁或6岁孩子能听懂的话。

耶稣：

慢慢来就行。他们记住的，比你想象的要多。他们还小，会说：“哇，妈妈，听起来很有道理，感觉是对的，我相信你。”哇哦。好在你不用教一群成年人，那可要难得多。

提问者：

好的。他们还愿意接受新事物。那我不用特意制定什么课程之类的吧？

耶稣：

不用。顺其自然就好。要自然，还要有趣。

提问者：

我需要一些帮助。

耶稣：

那就多和他们交流。每天给他们读一些书中的段落。看看能不能做到。

提问者：

好的。好的。好的。谢谢。我太爱你了。

耶稣：

我们也非常爱你。

提问者：

这是我第一次参与。听你讲话的时候，我能感觉到胸口有震动。我一直面带微笑，和大家一起在这里的感觉真好。我爱你，阿林。我爱你，耶稣。

耶稣：

我也爱你。你一直都拥有这份爱。它时刻与你相伴。当你给孩子们读那些段落时，你会感受到它。在与他们分享的过程中，你也会感受到。非常感谢你。

提问者：

不客气。

耶稣：

下一个问题来自钦温杜。钦温杜问：“我知道这个世界是虚幻的，在我的工作中，我该如何告知患者诊断结果，又不让他们感到恐惧呢？如果不治疗，这些病症在现实层面可能会给他们带来更多问题。谢谢你，耶稣。我爱你。”

耶稣：

我们也爱你。你的工作是在现实层面展开的。所以你要从现实层面入手，但要提醒自己，你所说的与真正的真相并无关联。这没关系，这只是你当下要和患者分享的内容。 你看，你只能以对方能理解的方式，向他们传达信息。他们来找你咨询问题，或者进行诊断，这些都和身体或物质层面有关。他们想要的是符合这个层面的答案。能理解吗？

提问者：

能理解。所以不能给他们讲一些，和他们认知相差太远的东西。

耶稣：

能理解吗？

提问者：

能理解。所以一切照常进行就好。

耶稣：

在心里提醒自己，这只是一场梦，是一个故事。好吗？这些话你自己知道就行，别跟患者说。

提问者：

好的。有时候我强调某些内容时，看到他们露出恐惧的神情，我就会感到愧疚。我会想：“等一下，我自己都不太相信这些。”但显然，作为医生我必须说点什么。所以，我明白了。谢谢。

耶稣：

不客气。别为此感到愧疚。你就想：“我知道，这是他们能接受帮助的层面。我要做的就是尽最大的善意，在他们能接受的层面上，给他们答案。”

提问者：

好的。谢谢你，耶稣。

耶稣：

不客气。

耶稣：

下一个问题还是来自布莱恩。布莱恩问：“我开始注意到，天空中出现类似幽灵的半透明云状身影，它们成群飞过，大概有20个，有时还会融合成一个。这种情况出现了好几次，而且我开始能感觉到它们什么时候会来。 天空中会出现一种迹象，让我知道它们很快就会出现。你能帮我解读一下这种经历吗？这些是什么，它们想传达什么信息或意义呢？我该从这段经历中反思什么，又该带着什么继续前行，来促进我的灵性觉醒呢？ 我希望能与圣灵保持一致，协调共处，这样我就能为身边的人，营造一个安全、稳定的环境，尤其是在我思维不断变化的过程中。”

耶稣：

布莱恩的问题是关于天空中出现的光影，它们像是能量波之类的东西，而且他在它们出现之前，就能感觉到，然后它们就出现了。他想知道这意味着什么？ 这意味着有某种交流，就像我们之前说的。这仍然是一种向你传达的信息。你只要敞开心扉，就能知道它们想传达什么。

提问者：

好的。谢谢。

耶稣：

不客气。对于这些经历，我有两种看法，这可能和你说的内容有关：也就是正确思维和错误思维。一方面，我觉得这些只是经历而已，没必要给它们贴上标签、下定义，也不用试图去理解或归类，感受就好。 但另一方面我又会想：“这些每晚都会出现，我不知道自己是不是忽略了什么关键。我试图弄清楚原因、主体和本质，把这些都分类。”

耶稣：

看，这就是让你陷入困境的地方。放下那些关于原因、方式之类的想法，让它自然地向你展现。 好吗？当你产生那些想法时，要知道这是你的理性思维在作祟，它总觉得自己必须了解一切。就像我们之前提到的“封闭回路”，这就是一个封闭回路。 你说：“我想知道这是怎么回事，这是什么。”但实际上，你这样做反而阻碍了自己了解事情的真相。所以放松点——不用真的躺下来，只是退一步，让你的思维平静下来，变得更易接纳。 去感受那种能量。感受的时候，你可以说：“我想听听你想传达给我的信息。”然后安静地等待，这意味着放下自己对事情“是什么”“怎么做”“为什么”的种种猜测。试试看吧。

提问者：

谢谢。我会试试的。

耶稣：

不客气。这个过程中要有耐心。

提问者：

要有耐心。

耶稣：

不客气。没错。

提问者：

我会继续尝试的。

耶稣：

当然可以。它们确实想和你交流。而且我们所说的“它们”，实际上和你并非分离的。所以信息总会传达过来的。

提问者：

好的。谢谢。

耶稣：

不客气。

耶稣：

本次问答就到这里。和大家在一起的时光，一如既往地美好。我们永远、无尽地爱着你们。我们一直与你们同在，始终如此。感谢大家。合十礼。

英文

Jesus:
Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening, everyone. Let us all come into this moment now, remembering that the only time that truly is is now. There is nothing else, just this moment.

Now, let go of all thoughts of the past, all future wonderings or wanderings. Just let them go and tune in now and breathe.

So, of course, we are here, and we are with you. Lots going on, so to speak—questions and so on. We do want to remind you of a couple of things: You are a mind and not a body. And because this is so, you have the ability to choose how you show up in your experience.

Recalling that your experience is but a dream—you see, everything that seems to be your life is part of a dream. There is no world in truth. This is your mind. Of course, you share this with every seeming “other.” One—all is one in truth.

But you see, the fact that you think there are many in a world that does not exist makes you believe that it’s all real and true. It only reinforces itself, you see. Whereas right now is the time to begin to let these beliefs go.

You are not a victim of external circumstances. You are not a victim of anything other than your own imaginings—your own mind. And what we mean by that is your own reactions to what you seem to see on the screen of your awareness at any given moment.

There is nothing out there, so to speak, that is triggering you to feel anything or react any way. You see, but you believe that you are separate from what you perceive, and it becomes an object for you to project your internal feelings or your internal thoughts onto, rendering you mindless and unaware of the fact that you can actually recall that belief and turn it around.

And what we mean by “turn it around” is: You are perceiving a projection of your mind, you see. And that projection is not out there but actually within your own mind, which you’re unaware of unless it’s projected on a screen. Does that make sense to everyone?

If it were not projected on the screen, you wouldn’t even know that it was there. And as you come into awareness of this projection (quote-unquote) being there, you can look at it: Is this projection in line with the truth of your being, which is love, which is peace, which is forgiveness, which is light and kindness, and so on and so forth?

Or is this more in line with your separate self, which doesn’t actually exist? Remember, you have two parts to your mind: You have your wrong mind and your right mind. And when you are projecting blame onto something that seems to be outside of you, you’re in your wrong mind.

If you believe that you are a victim at all of externals, you are listening to your wrong mind. But you can always change your mind. Turn instead to the teacher of truth within you, which is the Holy Spirit—the oneness that is who you really are, the part of your mind, the part of you that has never left its Creator.

Your Creator—the Creator, God, Love, Source—call it whatever you want. It is always love, and it always extends forgiveness. It is eternally patient. You are here to wake up, and we are here to remind you of that.

So, of course, we are here. We are aware of many questions that were sent in, and a lot of what we have to say will be answered throughout answering these questions. So, we are ready.

Q:
Thank you, Jesus. The first question is from George. George asks: “Yeshua, I’ve had the same career for 42 years and have been a student of the Course for 35 years. Lately, I have been praying to you to be able to come home. My prayer has been, ‘Let me come home; help me come home.’

Pretty much all at once, my clients have been disappearing. Although they have diverse backgrounds, they disappeared at the same time, and none of them will return my calls. I’m trying to find out if this is some kind of preparation for me to help me let go of the world, or maybe I am just getting old and it’s time for me to stop working, or maybe there is something about me all these clients don’t like. Is the Holy Spirit trying to help me let go of the world by taking away things that I am attached to, like career and making money? I’m beginning to realize maybe I should be happy about this. So I would love your perspective, please. And if people don’t like me, I need to know that too. Thank you, and I love you.”

Jesus:
We love you too. So first of all, if you think about it, that’s something to look at: Your clients seem to disappear all at the same time. Well, if you think about it, that must be in response to you being ready for the next step.

You see, and what we mean by that is: You have been in this career for 40 years. You probably have learned all that you need to learn from it. It’s time for you to open your mind to new experiences in which you can learn even greater. Does that make sense?

Q:
Yes, definitely. And of course, that is—yes, go ahead. That was kind of my suspicion, but I wanted to trust your intuition.

Jesus:
And that’s what it was.

Q:
I had a dream where I was just kind of walking along, and there was this neon sign—like you have at a diner—and red glass tubing, and it said, “Trust.” It was just sitting there in front of me in my dream.

Jesus:
Exactly what you need to do: truly trust. This is uncharted territories. As you said, you’ve been in this career for 40 years, and suddenly it’s been kind of upended in this way. But at least you are aware that something must be going on, which is exactly what we are saying.

And that sign saying “Trust” is truly the message for you with all of this. Trust—this is a time for you to have a different kind of learning. And what we mean by that is: You’re not going to be learning from the world of the world, but you’re going to be learning a deeper lesson, which will be delivered to you in ways that you have not yet thought of.

And that’s why you receive the message “Trust.” Whenever you find your mind wandering and thinking, “Oh, I don’t know what’s going on,” and all this—say, “Obviously, I’m supposed to trust,” and I trust that trust.

Q:
And I’m looking forward to finding what that is through my not being involved so much—meaning you’re not running this show, meaning you don’t set up how what you need to see comes to you, but rather the Holy Spirit will deliver it to you in a way that you will recognize.

Jesus:
We are going to say that the Holy Spirit will not give you something that you will not recognize. But you will recognize. You will be given signs.

Q:
Okay, that’s all I need to know, isn’t it?

Jesus:
Yes, it is.

Q:
All right. I love you. Thank you.

Jesus:
I love you too. And thank you. That really is a lesson to make peace with what is. And this—everyone can apply to life.

Jesus:
You can indeed be at peace no matter what seems to be going on in your experience. You just have to remember that. Take a step back, let go of your own thoughts, and ask for the thoughts the Holy Spirit wishes to bestow upon you to guide you to your next chapter of your life, so to speak.

Q:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Jesus:
Absolutely. Get ready. Wonderful.

Jesus:
This next question is from Adam, who doesn’t seem to be here today. But Adam asks: “I want to recognize my oneness with God and develop this relationship with oneness. My practice is to give praise and maintain God in my awareness all day, knowing who I truly am in God and God in me.

I want to dwell on this, but I find in the illusion I do hard labor and experience lack. How do I progress to a harmonious life and remain in the state of worship and peace? Thank you.”

Jesus:
Very good question. This is something that will help many, many—many of the same question: “How do I practice peace? How do I practice this spiritual awakening when I have a nine-to-five or I have some external jobs to do, and it seems to take me away? And I have this beautiful time at peace when I meditate for a little bit, then I’m supposed to go out into the world, and I lose total track.”

Well, that’s the dream. That’s the illusion—or you could say that’s life, so to speak. Now, the trick here is: Don’t separate your spiritual life or your awakening from your normal, mundane routine. Life does that make sense to everyone?

Q:
Yes.

Jesus:
So it’s like: You are feeling great because you did a good meditation. You go out into your environment, and you’re thrown off because you don’t have that meditative space that you believe you need in order to maintain that connection with God.

Well, let’s reassure you here: God is never without you, and you are never without God. So it doesn’t matter what you seem to be doing in the world. Your God is always with you.

So how do you praise God in this environment? Well, you remember that this environment is an illusion—is a dream, is a classroom. And you’re here to learn to forgive, to wake up. And every single situation is an opportunity for you to wake up even more.

So you don’t become thrown off by the seeming goings-on of the world. You see, you don’t see yourself as separate from the dream but part of it in the sense that you’re the mind that dreams. Does that make sense to everyone?

So nothing is happening in an external world because there is no external world in truth. The fact that you perceive it is—it means it’s in your mind; it’s part of your dream. Don’t fight it. Make peace with it. This is your classroom.

And so the way to go about your day—you were saying that you do heavy labor. We’ll use that as a meditation. So whatever you’re doing, if it’s manual heavy labor (we’re going to assume that’s what you’re talking about), that you use that as a way to meditate.

That doesn’t mean close your eyes and go—that means get in that way of thinking and move through the labor, move through your experience with that feeling of peace, so that what comes from you is only peace.

You see, rather than thoughts of separation. But if you do find yourself in the midst of thoughts of separation, you catch that and you remind yourself: “This cannot be so. I am not separate from God, and God is not separate from me. This is a dream. So I can let that thought go.”

There is no lack in God. And if you are always with God, there is no lack in you.

Q:
Thank you so much.

Jesus:
You’re welcome.

Jesus:
This next question is from Brian. Brian asks: “Thank you for your continued guidance on my experience with these off-planet beings. There is one being in particular that I’ve perceived. I’ve learned how to connect with through frequency. When I do, it seems to respond to me.

Is this what you meant by extending love? Is its movement a way of reciprocating that love towards me? And is it altering my mind? Is it an ET? Is this the blue being that I had an out-of-body experience with? You once said, ‘I am not separate from these beings.’ What does that truly mean?

Also, I feel that stars are deeply conscious. Do I have a connection with them as well? Or maybe they’re not actually stars? I’ve embraced it and feel called to begin sharing this experience quietly, respectfully, and gradually with those I am close to. Can you offer guidance on how to communicate this in a way that others can understand and feel safe hearing?”

Jesus:
Well, first of all, your experience is your experience with this connection you have that seems to be with—again—those who seem to be others. This is how most perceive in the world, you see—in the dream.

So this blue being, which indeed is always with you, is also part of you. All of this is part of you. The stars that you were talking about—are they conscious? Yes, indeed. Is it energy? Yes, it is. Is that frequency that you send out extension? Yes, it is. Are you separate from it? No.

The stars are part of you. The off-planet beings are part of you. The on-planet beings are part of you. The whole dream is part of you because it is your mind.

What we will say is: Continue to talk with these beings. Connect with this in a way that you are also reinforcing the truth of your oneness. You see, you’ll get something from that too.

Q:
Thank you.

Jesus:
Communication. Communication. Communication. Always.

Jesus:
The next question is from Neil. Neil asks: “Dear Jesus, when we ask for help with a concern here in the dream—especially if it is recurring and seemingly difficult—one, can we be assured that we will receive that help? And can that help come from angels or saints or departed loved ones or the Holy Spirit? Please explain. Thank you.”

Jesus:
We’ll just say that yes, it comes from everyone: angels, departed loved ones, Holy Spirit—all one. You see, when you ask for help, the help is given. It is something that is up to you to receive it.

You see, so that you are aware that you are receiving guidance from whomever it was you have asked for help. And we’re going to say: You asked for help from those that you mentioned. You will receive guidance in some way. You just have to open your mind to it.

It’s very simple but not always easy. You know, it becomes very distracting in this illusion. But anytime you feel that you’re not getting an answer, remind yourself: “I must have received an answer, but I wasn’t paying attention. Well, I’m going to forgive myself and be open to that answer.”

Q:
But Jesus, are you saying that you should be specific? Like if I asked—

Jesus:
No, it’s better to stay general. So you ask for help and ask for it: “Though I would like to receive help in a way that I can understand and I can receive and be aware that I have.” You see? And your job then is to remain open to the message or the help.

So it’s best not to maybe address a particular saint or a departed loved one in particular. That’s fine. A lot of people do choose very specific.

Q:
We didn’t understand what you meant by “specific.” We thought you were talking about specific questions. But yes, you can ask anyone specifically.

Jesus:
Does that make sense?

Q:
Yes. Thank you.

Jesus:
That makes a lot of sense.

Q:
But you know, Jesus, I’m wondering—like, it seems like the… I know we’re all one, but here, those of us that are stuck in the dream—like me, or seem to be stuck in the dream—we’re aware that there’s a higher reality and would like to be more in touch with that.

But sometimes they seem kind of remote. And like, I heard a commentator say, “Well, the founding fathers of our country wouldn’t approve of certain things.” And I say to myself, “Well, why don’t the founding fathers come back and do something about it? How come the founding fathers that we already passed the torch to—”

Jesus:
It’s your job now. But no—all spirits are with you all the time. You just have to open your mind to it.

We are going to say that most people operating in the area of politics are not thinking, “I can receive higher help from the actual founding fathers.” No, not at all. And they can—yeah, they can if they open their minds to it.

But that’s what we want to tell you: Everyone is so very focused right in a specific area of mind. We’ll say it’s very dense and difficult to reach. It’s like a barrier here.

It is something we’ve talked about before. We talk about this in A Course in Miracles as well: That a question when asked by the ego is always answered by itself. Meaning the question is not a question but a statement.

So when there are questions that seem to be asked, they are not questions. They are stating something. And what that is is a closed circuit, meaning no one can get in there and say, “Actually, this wonderful thing is what really is—is this peace. You can unravel all this nonsense of story and all of that and be free.”

No, it’s set up like this: “I want to know this. I already think I have the answer, so I’m not going to hear anything other than what I think is the answer unless I hear someone tell me specifically the exact thing that I already thought was the answer.”

So we have to really open our minds. Absolutely say, “I can’t possibly know. I might think I know, but that’s the part of my mind that I want to quiet down so that I can actually hear the true answer.”

Q:
And doesn’t it say in the Course—Jesus, at one point you said, “You know, you can talk to… talk to Jesus, talk to God, and you may be surprised about what you get for an answer.” I remember that.

Jesus:
Absolutely. That’s very nice because I like surprises like that.

Q:
Well, then you absolutely know that it wasn’t you making it up.

Jesus:
So that’s always a good thing. It’s important to realize that, which is why we brought this part up about having a closed circuit. You’ve already answered your question with your question, which is a statement. Therefore, you’re not open to the actual answer.

The actual answer is something completely different than what you’ve decided was the answer—not necessarily entirely different, but it’s an answer that will bring peace to all minds and clarity as well.

Q:
Yeah. Thank you so much, Jesus. And thank you for your transformative ascension on Easter Sunday. I want to wish everyone a beautiful holy weekend and a beautiful Easter.

Jesus:
And you as well. Did you know, everyone: You can have Easter every day. You can choose to ascend at any time. And you do that through thought. You do that through releasing your own interpretations. Give it to the Holy Spirit. Allow it to be reinterpreted for you, and it will always be some form of peace. That’s really what ascension is.

Q:
Thank you, Jesus. Praise God.

Jesus:
Absolutely.

Jesus:
This next question is from Julie. Julie asks: “I have a question about sex and the confusion I have on Jesus’s teachings in A Course in Miracles. It seems he teaches that sex is for procreation only. Beyond that, it’s an egoic idol that we use to admire and use the body. I would love some clarity from our brother Jesus.”

Jesus:
Well, what was stated in the Course is true because it has to do with the body. Remember that the body and the ego go hand in hand. You are not a body in truth. You don’t have an ego in truth—meaning you are not the ego.

But you can give the body over to the Holy Spirit to be used for the purpose of awakening, the purpose of healing. The ego loves to gratify itself using the body or beat itself up using the body. It doesn’t matter, as long as it’s doing something to reinforce a belief in a body.

You see, if you didn’t believe the body could give you pleasure, then you wouldn’t seek pleasure through the body. But know this: If you believe the body can give you pleasure, you also believe the body can give you pain. This is where the ego takes over.

You see, from the perspective of the Holy Spirit, there is no difference between pleasure and pain. Both are making the body real to you and believable to you. Sex is very much a tool of the ego if not used for regular procreation—which of course can be enjoyable but with one purpose. And if once that purpose is fulfilled, not really something to focus on.

You see? Do you see what we mean?

Q:
I think I do. But I—

Jesus:
And another way we could say it is: Sex is very distracting. It’s difficult to focus when you’re constantly focused on gratifying a body through physical pleasure or whatever.

But when the partner thinks it’s salvation, they are very much in their wrong mind. That’s where the confusion lies for this one.

Q:
Okay. Well, salvation does not lie in a body.

Jesus:
Salvation transcends the time—the space and time. It is outside of the battlefield and beyond the dream. That’s where salvation is. You see, salvation is not in the world. Salvation is in heaven. Heaven is where you really are in truth and is not part of the world. Do you follow what we’re saying?

Q:
Yes. And I—this one, which I know is not separate from all others, including the partner, understands that. But the other one doesn’t see it that way.

Jesus:
It’s not your job to teach someone through words at all. What you are to do is teach through example. Salvation and peace are one. So you interact with life from the mind of peace, and the examples are given through you by the way that you show up. Does that make sense?

Q:
I’m not sure in this specific… You have a specific example of something. How would I be able to explain the salvation that is that which is being sought in a different way?

Jesus:
Read passages from A Course in Miracles. We’re saying that lightly. Yeah, to this one who doesn’t understand any of it. Or don’t even try to convince this person of anything, actually. That’s really what we want to tell you about this situation.

Don’t invest all of your time to try to prove something to someone who’s not open to finding that. You see? Does that make sense?

Q:
Yes. The most loving thing you can do is be yourself and stand in your truth. And part of that is not going out of your way to convince someone that cannot be convinced.

Jesus:
Yeah. So make peace with the situation and let it go.

Q:
I feel it coming right out of those beautiful brown eyes looking right at me. So, thank you.

Jesus:
You’re welcome. Trust. Love you both.

Q:
We love you too. Yep, trust is coming up big time. You got this. I’ll probably be circling back next time. Thank you.

Jesus:
With you. You’re welcome.

Jesus:
This next question is from Ruth. Ruth asks: “As part of my spiritual awakening, I’m becoming more aware that much of life is an illusion. Yet why does the experience of feeling stuck or questioning the purpose of everything feel so real?

I no longer care about making a mark in this illusory physical world, but this realization has brought a sense of depression, wondering why I’m here. I feel like I’m spiraling into confusion. Why does the awareness of life’s illusory nature make me feel stuck or depressed, and how can I shift my perspective to align with my true purpose?”

Jesus:
So, remember how we said somewhere in the beginning that you have two parts to your mind: You have your wrong mind and your right mind. When you ever feel stuck and it’s like you can’t even get out of it at all, you’re in your wrong mind. You’re not listening to your right mind.

If you listen to your right mind, it would say, “Just let it go. Don’t even try to figure that out. Just let it go.” And yes, indeed, it is very common when you are waking up for you to feel that there’s nothing here and it is an illusion.

Well, it is an illusion. But to feel—“Well, this is an illusion. There’s nothing here, so I feel depressed, and things just feel meaningless.” Well, if you’re in your right mind, you would feel joy because nothing here is real. This is an illusion. You can let it go.

You see, but the ego, on the other hand, says, “But if this is an illusion, then I am meaningless, and there’s nothing for me to do, and I don’t know what’s going on.” And all this confusion comes up, and it wants you to hold on to it. That’s the ego.

The ego says, “You have to look at this. You have to figure this out.” And it keeps you going in circles when you can just step out—meaning you don’t have to keep going around in circles. You just realize that this is an ego trap.

The feeling of depression is always an ego trap. And a lot of people go through this through awakening. It’s this feeling like, “Well, I’ve done all this stuff, and I’m supposed to let it all go.”

You imagine, though, life without caring about what any of it means and just going with the flow. There’s freedom in that. Does that make sense?

Q:
Yes. Yes. Um, but it makes sense to my mind. But sometimes I find myself being aware of the fact that whereas before waking up, I—things maybe to prove myself or feel relevant or things like that.

And now, my interactions, the things that I—the choices that I’m making, especially around relationships—still hinged on that mindset, still trying to… But now it’s like head knowledge. I know that we are connected, one.

But still, then now it’s like: What’s the point of doing something to… because I don’t have it. Because I feel like if I—I don’t know if I’m conveying this point really well. But like, I feel like every—the intentions that I had before around friendships and relationships were not hinged on love, and I’m aware of that now.

But now I just don’t feel like working on any relationships and friendships. And but then again, we are one, and we need each other, and it’s okay.

Jesus:
That oneness is not dependent on anything. You see, the friendships will always remain whether you experience it in the dream or not. Those friendships are eternal—the real friendships. You see, they’re not part of the world of form. They’re always with you.

But the feelings that you’re having—like you were saying about relationships where you feel like you need to have some kind of validation or anything like that—is coming from the fact that you want to get deeper in touch with your own self. You see, because you will only be fulfilled completely when you completely love yourself.

Does that make sense?

Q:
Yes.

Jesus:
And when we say “love yourself,” we mean be kind to yourself, be gentle with yourself, and look within whenever you find yourself feeling like you have to seek outside. All answers are within.

Q:
I think I’ve heard—I’ve watched all, most if not all your videos since I came across you late last year. I don’t know what that means. I’ve heard you say that multiple times. But I realized, if I was to be honest with myself, I don’t know what that looks like.

Jesus:
Okay. Have a reference. You don’t have—it’s we say “within,” and it’s always understood as being—because so many are so in the belief of bodies—that it means in the body, that kind of thing.

You’re not a body, so you’re a spirit. “Within” is spirit. So you get in touch with your spirit. You see, that spirit is light. You may not be able to see it with your eyes, but you’ll feel it. And you’ll feel a lightness, a love, a joy, and a definite peace.

Whenever you feel yourself feeling confused, look to your spirit and say, “I do not know what I’m feeling. I want to turn this over to my spirit and ask for guidance from within.” And then be very patient for the answer.

Q:
Okay. Um, I don’t know if this is on the same thought process, but what is holy communion?

Jesus:
It is you joining you. We know there’s lots of stuff out there in terms of religion, but holy communion—true holy communion—has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with you communing with your self, your holy self, which is your spirit.

Q:
Oh gosh. Oh gosh. Just be with her. I feel like I’m on this journey of unlearning. Scary. Um, I don’t—I’ve not known anything other than religion. And now I feel so afraid because I have no—I feel like I have no anchoring.

I’ve not known anything else other than being told you have to take the communion, the elements, otherwise you won’t get healed. And you’ve got to do this and drummed in for years. I’m going to 40, and so much unlearning. And I—I actually have this fear of I don’t know what to hold on to, where to put my feet down.

Jesus:
And typical—it’s very, very typical and very, very common with things such as religion if you’ve been brought up that way. It does feel like you have nothing to hold on to. We want you to know that you have everything to hold on to, and that is your spirit.

Okay? Spirit is always with you. Okay? So hold on to that. When you feel like you’re losing ground, say, “Holy Spirit, catch me. I need your help.” And then let it go and be with it.

That fear comes up—it’s common. Just start releasing it. Say, “Okay, this feeling of fear is keeping me from total union with my spirit.” And so little by little, I’m going to let it go. Don’t force it.

You don’t even have to let all these things go. You don’t have to let go of your religion. But just know that there’s something deeper, and you want to reach that something deeper.

Q:
Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, I’m very happy right now. Very. Thank you. For last question, maybe a bit related. Um, I have been having this thought that from 2022—I don’t know where it came from, but well, no—the origin of this thought was when I read the Bible, John 1: “There was a man sent from God, and his name was John.”

And for some reason, my mind was stuck in a loop because I was thinking: “It was a man sent from God. This must have been a being who—you must consent to be sent, which means that we are before time.” Anyway, I got stuck there.

And then, over from 2022 up until now, I’ve really been wanting to sort of have my memories from before I came into this reality. And I think it speaks to my fear because when I asked myself why do I really want to have memories of home, I realized that it was to curb the fear that I felt of—I don’t have an anchoring in all this unlearning of religion.

I don’t know where to put my feet. I don’t know what to hold on to. And I think my—my mind—I don’t know if this is my ego—but I just keep feeling like, “Gosh, I wish I could remember home before I was born.”

Jesus:
That’s actually your spirit. You want to remember home. You want to remember who and what you were before you seem to come into this experience. That’s just wanting to awaken. That remembrance is what is always calling you, and you are calling it.

So what you want to do is just be aware of that and that you are opening your mind to receive that remembrance. And that remembrance is love. There’s nothing to fear. It’s always love.

Q:
Um, so hell is not real?

Jesus:
Not at all. Hell is a condition that minds put themselves in. But it’s only a thought, and a thought can be changed.

Q:
So okay. I’m sorry. I know there’s so many other questions. Let me ask the last question. And um, again, religion. So I grew up with a fear of God—literally the fear of God.

Pounded: If you don’t—when I was seven, it was like, “If you don’t get saved—if you don’t say the confession prayer—then you now are accountable to yourself, and you know you go to hell because you’re no longer under your parents’ covering.”

And as an adult, I kept hearing, “If I mock the Holy Spirit”—I don’t even know what that means—“I am condemned to hell.” Hell, hell, hell. So my children now are eight, six, and four. They’re being taught in school that hell is real and that God—or you—are very punishing. You punish them when they make mistakes and things like that.

I’ve read your book. I’m a student of A Course in Miracles, and I read Conversations with God. And I feel I can’t explain the need I feel to constantly raise my children in this awareness that I seem to be coming into. But I don’t know where to start.

Jesus:
Start with sharing the books. Say, “I know that you’re going to school and learning religion. I want to teach you something else. I want to teach you of the God of love—that God is love. And I will teach you that on the side.

Do whatever you need to do in class and all of that, but know the truth. And I want you to hear the truth so that you have that truth awakened within you.” Does that make sense?

Q:
Yeah. Are they of understanding? Like, I resonate with them, but then I’m like, “How do I break this down so that they can ingest as a four-year-old or a six-year-old?”

Jesus:
Without little by little. They will remember more than you think. They’re young enough to say, “Wow, that sounds right, Mommy. That feels right, and I believe you.” Oh, wow. The best thing is you’re not trying to teach a bunch of adults. That’s much more difficult.

Q:
So okay. They’re still open. And do I don’t have to try to like create some curriculum and—

Jesus:
No, you don’t have to do that. Make it natural. Make it very natural and make it fun.

Q:
I need help.

Jesus:
So just bring them into conversation with you. Read them some passages. See if you could do that every day.

Q:
Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, thank you. I love you so much.

Jesus:
We love you so much too.

Q:
This is my first time. And as you spoke, I could feel the vibration in my chest. I just—I’ve had this big smile just being here with all of you. I love you, Arin. I love you, Jesus.

Jesus:
I love you too. You always have this. And this is with you all the time. You’ll feel it when you read the passages to your children. You’ll feel it as you share with them. So thank you so much.

Q:
You’re welcome.

Jesus:
This next question is from Chinwendu. Chinwendu asks: “Knowing that this world is an illusion, in my practice, how do I handle giving my patients a certain diagnosis that may elicit fear in them? If left untreated, these conditions may cause more problems for them on the level of form. Thank you, Jesus. I love you.”

Jesus:
We love you too. And so your practice is on the level of form. So you want to approach it from the level of form but remind yourself that what you are sharing is nothing to do with real truth. And that’s okay—that this is what you’re going to share with someone in this moment.

You see, you can only express to someone something on a level that they can understand. So they’ve come to you with questions or diagnoses that have to do with a body or physical form in some way. They’re looking for an answer that fits that. Does that make sense?

Q:
Yes. So you wouldn’t want to give them something completely out of touch with what they believe.

Jesus:
Does that make sense?

Q:
Yes. So just go about everything normally.

Jesus:
Just remind yourself in your mind that this is part of a dream. This is a story. Okay? That’s for you to say to yourself and not to your patients.

Q:
Okay. I just feel guilty sometimes when I’m emphasizing something and I can see them getting scared. I’m like, “Wait a second. I don’t even believe this myself.” Um, but obviously I have to say something as a doctor. So yeah. So I understand. Thank you.

Jesus:
You’re welcome. So don’t feel guilt about that. Just say, “I know that this one—this is the level on which they can receive help. And all I’m going to do is do the most loving thing, which is to give them the answer on the level that they can receive.”

Q:
Okay. So thank you, Jesus.

Jesus:
You’re welcome.

Jesus:
This next question is from Brian. Brian asks: “I’ve started noticing spirit-like translucent cloud figures streaking across the sky above me. There are about 20 of them roaming together, sometimes merging into one. This has occurred several times, and I have started to sense when they’re coming.

There is a sign in the sky that lets me know that they will arrive soon. Can you help me understand this experience? Who are these beings, and what message or meaning are they trying to share with me? What should I reflect on or carry forward from this to support my spiritual awakening?

I want to remain aligned and attuned with the Holy Spirit so I can hold a safe, steady presence for those around me, especially as those changes continue to unfold in my mind.”

Jesus:
So Brian’s question has to do with streaks in the sky, and they come in the form of waves of energy—something like that—and he can sense them before they come, and they come. And he wants to know what does this mean?

Well, what it means is that there is communication—like we said earlier. It’s still communication coming to you. And you can find out what it is that they’re trying to communicate with you by just being open to them.

Q:
Okay. Thank you.

Jesus:
You’re welcome. And part of it, I guess, with these experiences is I’m looking at it two ways—which maybe ties in with what you’re saying: your right mind and your wrong mind. Like, I look at it one way: These are experiences. There’s no need to try to label or define them or to understand or categorize it, but just be with it.

And then the other part is: “Well, these repeatedly happen every night, and I don’t know if I’m missing the point. But I try to think about the why, the who, the what, and categorize all of these.”

Jesus:
See, that’s the thing that’s tripping you up. Let go of those thoughts of the why, the how, and all of that and allow it to reveal itself to you.

Okay? And just know that when you’re having those thoughts, that’s your intellectual mind that feels like it has to know everything. And like we said earlier about closed circuits, that’s a closed circuit.

You’re saying, “I want to know how and what this is,” so what I’m actually doing is I’m keeping myself from knowing how and what this is. So just lay back—you don’t have to lay down—but just step back and allow your mind to become quiet and receptive.

Tune in to that energy. When you do, say, “I’d like to hear what you have to convey to me,” and I will be quiet while I wait—which means I will release myself from my own musings of the what and the how and the why. And just give that a shot.

Q:
Thank you. I’ll try to do that.

Jesus:
You’re welcome. Be patient with the process.

Q:
Be patient.

Jesus:
You’re welcome. Yeah.

Q:
I’ll keep going.

Jesus:
Absolutely. They do want to communicate with you. And the “they” that we’re talking about are actually not separate from you. So it will come through.

Q:
Okay. Thank you.

Jesus:
You’re welcome.

Jesus:
And that’s the end of our session. It was a beautiful session as always with all of you. We love you infinitely, eternally, and always. We are always with you—always. And thank you all. Namaste.