虐待 节选自《引力》 1997年12月12日

《虐待》
节选自《引力》
加利福尼亚州千橡市
1997年12月12日

提问者（Q）：上次帕梅拉谈到那个孩子正遭受虐待的女人。
巴夏（B）：是的。
提问者（Q）：是被一个邪教组织虐待。
巴夏（B）：是的。
提问者（Q）：当时你不愿谈论这件事，但你确实说过你会支持她。
巴夏（B）：是的。
提问者（Q）：当时你是专门针对帕梅拉说的这话。
巴夏（B）：是的。
提问者（Q）：我想你也会支持我们所有帮助她的人吧。
巴夏（B）：是的。
提问者（Q）：我想知道你说的“支持我们”是什么意思，你从哪些方面支持我们呢？
巴夏（B）：我可以从一个层面跟你解释。要记住，我们以及像我们这样的其他存在，或者说是灵性存在，与很多人类之间最强烈的互动，很多时候是在你们所说的梦境状态中。在我们进行的许多梦境互动里，我们已经有了你们所认为的持续的接触、对话、交流和互动。只要你们愿意，你们中的许多人在梦境状态中会尽力去探索，看看当你们回到所谓的清醒状态并重新与现实世界建立联系时，能为改变物质现实做些什么。在那些梦境状态中，我们与你们同在，一起讨论、规划、指引方向、教导、反思、学习，并分享无数可以应用到你们物质现实中的想法；你们认为这些想法最适合应用于对所有相关者都最有利的目的。

从这个层面来说，这就是我们支持你们的一种方式。

但当你们在物质现实中醒来时，你们中的许多人仍然认为地球上的这个物质现实“游戏”需要一些随机的未知因素，这样它才能以你们所希望的方式运行。然后，你们中的许多人会凭经验有意识地忘记那些对话中的许多内容。你们会把这些记忆推到你们通常所说的潜意识层面，这样它就可以自动运行，只是让你们以一种自发和创造性的方式引导自己去面对某些事件。这样一来，在你们实现我们在以太梦境领域中讨论的事情时，就不会变得机械或一成不变。因为那样的话，你们就给自己留出了创造的自发性，来决定如何转化这些事情，而不只是机械地重复我们所说的步骤，因为当你们与像物质生活这样不同的现实建立联系时，总会出现新的因素，你们必须考虑到每时每刻的自发创造。所以，为了以最好的方式做到这一点，你们会让自己忘记我们讨论的一些事情，并不是说你们不会去实施这些事情，而是你们会根据重新连接的物质现实的实际情况来实施它们。你明白我的意思吗？

提问者（Q）：明白。
巴夏（B）：这回答了你的问题吗？
提问者（Q）：是的，我还有更多问题。
巴夏（B）：好的，我就猜到会这样。

提问者（Q）：除了你们之外，还有其他外星群体在帮助她和我们吗？
巴夏（B）：哦，有，有，有，有，有。
提问者（Q）：你能说出一些他们的名字吗？
巴夏（B）：嗯，你们知道其中的许多群体，或者说你们知道其中的一些。从你们通常所说的角度来讲，比如昴宿星人、猎户座人，还有天狼星群体。有好几个群体，还有一些我们目前不能说出名字。
提问者（Q）：但这些群体中的一些是专门在帮助这个女人，处理这种情况吗？
巴夏（B）：这些群体中的一些个体成员正在专门帮助你提到的那个女人，以及你们星球上的许多其他人来处理这个特定问题。这在你们星球目前是一个非常重要的问题，因为现在是时候打破你们星球上那些造成许多成年人，或者所谓成年人，功能失调的情况和环境的枷锁了。
提问者（Q）：你说的具体是指恋童癖还是撒旦教……
巴夏（B）：所有你们通常所说的虐待形式。所有你们通常所说的对灵魂的贬低形式。
提问者（Q）：那有天使在提供帮助吗？
巴夏（B）：有，但严格来说，这并不是你们传统意义上所说的外星存在。
提问者（Q）：对。那什么是天使，它和灵性向导有什么不同呢？
巴夏（B）：我们所说的天使意识，是从“一”中分化出来的第一个意识层面。它是从“万有”这个未分化的整体中分离出来的第一个层面。简单地从线性角度来讲，当你们所说的上帝或“万有”有了自我意识时，产生了第一个反射，第一个觉知时刻，这就导致了一种反射。为了能将自身视为有自我意识的存在，这就自动意味着一种隔离、一种分离、一种自我反射。因为上帝就是上帝，这种自我反射创造出了分化的意识。那个最初分离出来的、有反射性的分化意识，就是你们所说的天使意识。

所以通俗地说，天使是从“一”往下的第一个层面。是“一”分化为“多”的第一个阶段。然后从那里继续往下，到不同层面的超灵意识，再到分化的人格结构意识，比如灵体和灵魂等等。我们跳过了几个层面，但你应该明白我的意思了。这对你有帮助吗？

提问者（Q）：有帮助。我想知道，几个月前的某个时候，你提到过这个月，也就是12月，会出现一个人，这个人会体现戴安娜王妃和特蕾莎修女的某些特质。我们中一些知道那个相关女人的人想知道，你说的是不是就是她呢？
巴夏（B）：你理解错了。我们的意思并不是说不可能有具体的人或多或少地体现出你所说的那些特质，但那些人的离世意味着现在需要你们所有人来体现那些特质！从某种意义上说，他们现在已经离开了物质领域，通过向你们展示需要做的事情，让你们在他们离开后，不得不把那些特质融入自己的内心，并以自己的方式表达出来，而不是仅仅让他们为你们去做这些事。现在是自我负责、自我行动的时候了，这也是为什么许多作为象征和榜样的人会离开，这样一来，就需要你们自己在内心去体现那些概念和特质，可以说，成为你们自己版本的他们。你明白我的意思吗？

提问者（Q）：明白。我想告诉你，那个相关的女人今晚就在这里，我想知道她是现在就向你提问，还是稍后再问呢？
巴夏（B）：你可以随意猜测，但如果你直接问她，可能会得到答案。
提问者（Q）：你是现在就想向巴夏提问，还是稍后再问呢？
提问者（Q）：稍后。
提问者（Q）：好的，稍后吧。谢谢你，巴夏。
巴夏（B）：好的——祝你度过愉快的一天！

原文段落

“ABUSE”
From Gravity
Thousand Oaks, CA
12-12-97

Q: Last time when Pamela was talking about the woman whose children are being abused.
B: Yes.

Q: By a cult.
B: Yes.

Q: And you wouldn’t talk about it, but you did say that you are there for her.
B: Yes.

Q: You were being specific for Pamela for the moment.
B: Yes.

Q: And I assume that you are there for all of us that are helping her.
B: Yes.

Q: I was wondering what you mean by, “there for us,” in what sense are you there for us?
B: I will give you one level of it. Remember that many of the strongest interactions that we and other beings such as ourselves, and or spirit beings, have with many humans is in what you call the dream state. In many dream interactions we are having, already, what you consider to be on going contact, conversation, communication, interaction. In so far as you are willing, many of you stretch out in your dream state to see what it is you can do about changing your physical reality, once you reconnect to it in what you call your waking state. We are there with you in those dream states discussing, planning, orientating, teaching, reflecting, learning and sharing the myriad of ideas that can be applied into your physical reality; that you think is best to apply for the purpose for what is best for all concerned.

And on that level that is one way that we are there for you.

But when you wake up in your physical reality, in that many of you still understand this physical reality game on earth to be one that requires a bit of random unknown in order for it to function in a way you prefer it to, then many of you will simply, empirically forget many of those conversations consciously. You will push them into a level of yourself that you typically call the subconscious, so that it can run on automatic and simply allow you to direct yourself towards certain events in a spontaneous and creative way. So that it simply doesn’t become robotic or automatic in terms of how you fulfill what it is we have discussed in the etheric dream state realm. Because then, you allow yourself the spontaneity of creation as to how to transform these things, and it simply isn’t the rote practice of simply repeating the steps we are talking about, because there will always be a new factor when you are connected to a different reality such as physical life, there will always be the spontaneous moment to moment creation that you have to take into account. So, in order to do that in the way that is best, you allow yourself to forget some of the things that we discussed, not that you will not implement them, but you will implement them according to how it is appropriate for the physical reality you have reconnected to. Does that make sense to you?

Q: Yes.
B: Does that answer your question?
Q: Yes, I have more.
B: Yes, all right, I figured that was the case.

Q: Are there more alien groups than just yours that are helping her and us?
B: Oh, yes. yes, yes, yes, yes.

Q: Can you name any of them?
B: Well many of them you know, or some of them you know, in the sense of what you typically call the Pleiadeans and the Orions, and the Sirius group. There are several and there are some we can not name at this time.

Q: But some of those groups are specifically helping this woman, this situation?
B: Some individual members in some of those groups are specifically helping the woman you are referring to and many other people on your planet with regard to this particular issue which is a very important issue on your planet at this time since it is time to break the chain on your planet of those situations and circumstances that have created much of the disfunctionality in many of the adults, or the so called adults, that exist on your planet at this time.

Q: Are you referring specifically to pedophilia or satanic. . . .
B: All forms of what you typically call abuse. All forms of what you typically call the devaluation of the soul.

Q: Is there also Angelic help involved?
B: Yes, but that is not what we call an extraterrestrial being per se, in the way you classically mean it.

Q: Right. And what is an Angel and how does it differ from a spirit guide?
B: The Angelic consciousness is, as we refer to it, the level of consciousness that is the first differentiation from the One. It is the first level of split off from the undifferentiated whole of All That Is. The first reflection, the first moment of awareness, just to speak linearly, that what you call God or All That Is, had that it was self-aware, caused a reflection. In order to see Itself as self-aware, that automatically implies a segregation, a separation, a self-reflection. That self-reflection, because God is God, created differentiated consciousness. That first split off, reflective differentiated consciousness is what you call Angelic Consciousness.

So to put it colloquially the Angels are the first level down from the One. The first differentiation of the One into the Many. Then from there it goes down, down, down to different levels of Oversoul consciousness and into differentiated personality structure consciousness, such as spirits and souls and so forth. We are skipping a few levels but you get the point. Does that help you?

Q: Yes. I wonder, you earlier at some point some months ago, you mentioned a person that would come along this month, December, that would embody aspects of Lady Di and Mother Teresa, and some of us who know this woman in question are wondering if you were referring specifically to her?
B: You have made a misinterpretation. What we are saying is, not that there can not be specific embodiments that might reflect more or less the qualities you are referring to, but the idea of the passing of those individuals requires now the embodiment of those qualities in all of you! They have now, in a sense, left the physical realm by showing you the kinds of things that need to be done so that in leaving, you are forced to take those qualities into your own hearts and express them in your own way, rather than simply letting them do it for you. It is the time of self-responsibility, self-action and this is one of the reasons why many of those that act as symbols and reflections are going to leave so that it is up to you to embody those concepts and qualities within yourself and become your own version of them, so to speak. Does that make sense to you?

Q: It does and I would like to tell you that the woman in question is here tonight and I was wondering if she wants to ask a question of you now or later?
B: You may wonder all you wish, but probably you will get an answer if you ask.

Q: Would you like to ask Bashar a question now or later?
Q: Later.

Q: All right a little later. Thank you Bashar.
B: All right—You good day!